mr2-digest                Monday, 13 November 1995      Volume 01 : Number 029

'86 53K miles - how much?
Re: mr2-digest V1 #27
Re: mr2-digest V1 #27

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From: uunet!dg-rtp.dg.com!miller (Mark T. Miller)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 15:11:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: '86 53K miles - how much?

Saw an '86 for sale on the way home yesterday. It was dark and in an
unsavory part of town, and today it is raining real hard so I have not
had a chance to look it over closely, but from what I could tell by
a quick flashlight exam it look pretty nice:

	-'86 (Mk I, NA)
	-Ground effects/spoiler
	-Red
	-Sunroof
	-Michelins w/ a decent amount of tread
	-Factory Alloys
	-Possibly a new muffler
	-Interior looks good from what I could tell (need to get new batteries
		for that d*mn flashlight :))
	AND
	- 53K miles!

It looks like it has been garaged, the plastic ground effects parts look
almost new - my poor Red '89 was crying while parked next to it. The paint
is in good to very good shape - which is very good for a Red '86 (another
comment about my '89 is not warranted ;))

Of course the mechanicals are the most important part, which I have yet to
get a look at - perhaps monday.

But I am doing my homework.  Autovantage lists these numbers for this car:

		POOR		GOOD		EXCELLENT

Wholesale	$1850		$2250		$2625

Retail		$3175		$3650		$4100


Anyone want to tell me what they think, assuming the mechanicals check out?
The "sticker" is $5K.

[Total off the cuff comment - since it looks like it had a new exhaust 
(unconfirmed in daylight), and such low milage, and appears to have been
garaged, combined with what looks to be a fine, nonsmoker interior, I would 
bet this was someones car they only took to the grocery store now and then 
(the short trips eat the exhaust system)]

Please send me email directly, if you respond to the list, as I get the 
digested (burp), version of this so I won't see your answers till after
I go to the dealer.

Thanks!!!
Mark.

Looking for MR2 number 4!!!!!!!

- -- 

	Mark T. Miller					miller@dg-rtp.dg.com
							...uunet!xyzzy!miller

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From: uunet!aol.com!CybrRacn54
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 15:24:50 -0500
Subject: Re: mr2-digest V1 #27

In a message dated 95-11-11 04:40:14 EST, you write:

>
>What is extrude honing of a manifold and what does it accomplish?

Extrude Honing involves running an abrasive putty through the manifolds at
high pressure.  This in turn removes only the restrictive points and
streamlines the ports.  It also balances the CFMs between ports.

Gerald San Agustin
88 Twincharger


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From: uunet!aol.com!CybrRacn54
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 15:24:49 -0500
Subject: Re: mr2-digest V1 #27

In a message dated 95-11-11 04:40:14 EST, you write:

>The January 1996 issue of Turbo magazine is out (why do they do that?), and 
>it has some interesting MR2 stuff in it.  There is a little blurb up front 
>bidding farewell to the MR2 -- nothing we don't already know.  There is also

>a stock-looking (except for some lowering) '93T that ran a 12.27 quarter 
>mile.  It was the fastest turbocharged import at some drag race.  It had an 
>aftermarket turbo and intercooler, but the engine internals were stock.  It 
>was running 20 psi of boost, which sounds awfully high for a stock engine. 
> I personally think racing in a straight line is boring, but apparently this

>car works very well during normal street driving, too.
>
>For Gerald San Agustin, I noticed you melted pistons in two 3SGTEs.  Does 
>your 88 Twincharger have a 3SGTE in it?  Can you give me some more details 
>about it?
>
>

Ya.... that's Kali from Redline Racing.  I know most of them since they're in
the same area.  Actually, they've been pretty competive with my crew, Cyber
Racing, but we have good relations.

Geez... you think 20 psi is high?  I guess you haven't been around any
serious MR2s.  

I was also at that Import Drag Race (aka Battle of the Imports).  Turnout for
racers was in the hundreds.  Spectators in the 10,000s.
  
I guess it's your opinion that straight line racing is boring.  Just keep in
mind that we're the crowd that really builds our motors to the extreme and
enjoy it.  And yes, our cars are VERY streetable.  Also, most of these guys
also compete at Willow Springs, so straight line is just another event.

No.... I don't have a 3SGTE in my car, but I build and program aftermarket
EFIs part-time.  I've seen the worst case scenerios on these motors.

Gerald San Agustin
88 Twincharger <--- 4AGZTE
Cyber Racing, Southern California


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