mr2-digest Wednesday, June 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 3011 Help IMOC raise money for a new MR2.com server, and pick up cool IMOC mugs, stickers, and T-shirts in the process! See http://cheetah.salsgiver.com/shirts/ for T-shirts, http://www.twosrus.com/imoc.htm for mugs, stickers, and more. --- Subjects ---- Re: mr2 MR2 MkII - Transmission Problem, Toyota Dealer Again [dkchal@data] mr2 New APEX Boost Controller ["Jeff Slade" ] mr2 Re: power window gears for MR2 MKI [dkchal@datasync.com (Donald K. Ch] Re: mr2 BGB body work; stock struts [dkchal@datasync.com (Donald K. Chalf] mr2 re: Petersburg ProSolo ( was re: Misc ) [Dave Hillman ] Re: mr2 Re: power window gears for MR2 MKI [Bulldog06@aol.com] Re: mr2-digest V2 #3009 [Brian Jackson ] Re: mr2 Gforce UPDATE $510.00 - Chris King ["Alex Pun" ] mr2 89 MR2 MKII [kevin.adlaf@cp.Novartis.com] mr2 FS: 93 Turbo ["Tony Wang" ] Re: mr2 More court advice ["David Shotwell" ] mr2 85 vs 87 engine swap ["Hernandez, Andres" ] mr2 MR2 Distributor ["Roger S. Prior" ] mr2 MKII - transaxle fluid? ["Larry E Bushaw" >I was wondering whether anyone might have any input >or experiences similar to what I'm experiencing with >my 93 Turbo. > >Recently I was experiencing a problem where the clutch >would "go soft" and the car would tend to stall after driving. >Additionally, there was another problem which I considered >to be a possible symptom of the same underlying problem - >when starting the car in the morning, when I shifted from reverse >to neutral once the engine is started, then let out the clutch, >then I hear a small sound from the transmission area, >and the car creeps forward by only a small amount. > >The Toyota dealer told me that my clutch master cylinder was the >problem, that it was leaking and needed replacement. As far as >the creeping in neutral problem, they said that the car cannot creep >while in neutral. When I asked the "Service Advisor" about this, he >"explained" >to me that if the car is in neutral, then it cannot creep. So I brought him >out to the car and demonstrated. He then told me that this is normal. > >So anyway, the car seemed OK for a while - the clutch would occasional >"go soft" - usually when shifting from 3rd to 4th while accelerating onto >the >highway immediately when leaving work in the PM. > >So yesterday, it seemed to go extremely soft on shifting into 4th. The next >part >of my drive is about 5 minutes on open highway, then I need to get off and >pay >the tolls. At the toll booth, I noticed that something still seemed to be >going on >with the transmission with the clutch pushed in, and even with the trans in >neutral. It kept pulling the engine revs down. I suspect that something was >still engaged, even though clutch is depressed or gear is in neutral. It >finally >got so bad that the car kep stalling, and I think I killed the battery with >restarting >so often (I knew the battery was getting weak). > >So, does anyone have any clue as to what this could be? It seems to me that >it >could be related to the same symptom I described with the car creeping in >neutral. >BTW, yesterday while this was going on, there was some noise from the >trans, and >what I could only describe as some sort of vibration (similar to that ABS >feel). > > >Also, I cannot help but feel that the Toyota dealer was either negligent or >imcompetent >in fixing the problem the first time around. I described the other symptoms >in detail, and >they dismissed it. Going further, I demonstrated the problem to my "Service >Advisor", who >then told me that this is normal. Now the problem seems to have re-occured >to the point >where now I need to pay for a tow-truck, which may the least of my >concerns. Other >damage could have occurred as a result of this problem being neglected. >What should >I do? Does it sound like I have some solid case for having them pay for at >least part >of the repair? > >Thanks in advance for any help. > > >John Haluska >93T Red >Previsously 91 Red >86 Black The Strawberry Kid .. 93T,89SC,86na Twossys Galore .. Seeds be with You ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:59:59 -0400 From: "Jeff Slade" Subject: mr2 New APEX Boost Controller I know very little about Turboed engines, but I follow the list regularly. = I have a stock 91T that I would like to begin modifying. Is this new = APEX Controller a good idea? Jeff 91T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:55:37 -0500 From: dkchal@datasync.com (Donald K. Chalfant) Subject: mr2 Re: power window gears for MR2 MKI > Don, > > I just got word that Gerrit posted the gears yesterday and they should > arrive in one to two weeks. The only problem, and the reason I'm > writing you from work, is my PC ate my email program (it's a long > story) and I lost all my addresses. Could you post a message on the > MR2 lists for those people who ordered gears to send me a message with > their email addresses again. I have their snail mail addresses but I'd > like to keep them updated via email if I could. BTW I got an extra > gear so if their's someone who didn't get one ordered we can > accomodate them. > > Thanks for the help. > BRB The Strawberry Kid .. 93T,89SC,86na Twossys Galore .. Seeds be with You ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:05:55 -0500 From: dkchal@datasync.com (Donald K. Chalfant) Subject: Re: mr2 BGB body work; stock struts You should do yourself a favor and write down Jeff Watson's # 1-800-327-2087 and for SSTs OTC (800) 933-8335 special tools is the place Toyota orders them from. >BGB/Misc.: >I have Volumes 1 and 2 for the 91 MR2. I am about to embark on some body work >and I was curious if there was another volume that dealt specifically with >that. >I am going to replace my fenders and the front bumper. I've heard that >they are >pretty easy to do, but I like to do things right the first time. I actually >bought a belt tension gauge to do the v-belts right the first time. Everyone >told me not to worry about it. I try to take good care of my 2. Also, >how much >is the SST for the oil filter? The dealership (I know, I know, dealerships >stink) tightened it far past hand tight. They changed my oil/filter and toped >off all fluids for $19.99 in 30 minutes. I couldn't refuse. I probably should >have. Lastly, does a oil pan drain plug exist for the MKII instead of the plug >bolt? > >Strut Question: >I called to order some OEM struts to replace my existing ones, and the >parts guy >told me that there are different parts numbers for the Na and Turbo. True? >I've heard the valving on the turbo struts weren't that bad (DTM's 12 second 2 >uses them) and could be had for less than half a Tokico. Well, toyota only >sells the whole strut assembly (for only $105). Ack! I could get a tokico for >that price. > >Thanks, >Bob The Strawberry Kid .. 93T,89SC,86na Twossys Galore .. Seeds be with You ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:09:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Hillman Subject: mr2 re: Petersburg ProSolo ( was re: Misc ) Randy Chase wrote... > In Pro5, Brian Priebe on Kumhos took first over Kevin Bailey on his BFG > clad MR2. Brian went on to take second place in the overall Pro > challenges. Out of curiosity ( okay not really ), does anyone who was there know if the winning car was *really* on Kumhos? The entry list for Peru said Kumhos as well, but the car was apparently on BFGs for the event. Congratulations to everyone! - -- D a v i d H i l l m a n scscc, nma, scca, imoc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:13:31 -0500 From: dkchal@datasync.com (Donald K. Chalfant) Subject: RE: mr2 mk1, coolant overlow lid yup. and radiator cap. Right Dan? >Is a tight overflow lid critical for proper cooling system performance? > >Allen Sanders >Tulane Law School >asanders@law.tulane.edu >'85 na silver > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duane Brown [SMTP:onone@mindspring.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 6:05 AM >> To: mr2-digest@iList.net >> Subject: mr2 mk1, coolant overlow lid >> >> >> Hey all, >> >> My car has started getting a bit hot, not >> very bad, but spiking. I think it may be due >> to either air in the system and/or that the >> plastic lid on the overflow reservoir wont stay >> fully attached. I assume this is bad since the pressure >> wont build up to pump it back into system as it cools.? >> >> Does anyone know a place to buy just the cap, or maybe >> ship me one with the reservoir. Haven't priced them at the >> dealer yet, so I have no idea what its worth. >> >> Thanks, >> Duane The Strawberry Kid .. 93T,89SC,86na Twossys Galore .. Seeds be with You ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:17:40 -0500 From: "Chris King" Subject: Re: mr2 Got One! > The (Red) paint was awesome. I've seen a lot of red MR2s, but this paint was > much richer. A bit of a darker tint to it.. The 91-92s have Crimson Red paint which is darker than the 93+ which has Super Red. > which good. 3-4 noticeable chips and 1 scratch. Noticeable as in from a foot > or two away. Touchup paint should do it. (If not, repaint hood? I guess all > Mr2s have some chips, I'm probably nuts.) Be careful with touchup paint. It doesn't always match due to fading, etc. > No fading except mirrors. One wasn't faded, one was. He said it was because > one was buffed, and with a little elbow grease, the other could look the same. Meguiar 3 step it. > Spoiler had a lot of tiny bubbles on sides. Mechanic said it may be cheap > paint (told me celicas had the same problem). I never heard of this, but I let > it ride.. It's not too bad. Look on the sides to see if it was repainted. I have never seen this before and I have looked at a lot of MR2s. > CD Player doesn't work. Isn't this a factory recall? If so, I believe it's a > freebee. No, not a recall. Might as well throw an aftermarket in. Only recalls were steering wheel and ac. > Cloth seats appeared to be.. blue?! Wierd. Not quite sure why.. Maybe he swapped seats with a white mr2 that had blue seats. Chris K. Yellow 93 Turbo Silver 87 NA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:21:19 EDT From: Bulldog06@aol.com Subject: Re: mr2 Re: power window gears for MR2 MKI Don, Just resending my email address. I know BBrandt has it all. I just want to cover the bases. I can't wait to get my gears because I'm looking forward to having "both" windows down. I miss my "2" since I've been here at Ft Dix, NJ doing the Refugee mission. I'm stuck driving a government car (ugh!) Chuck Van Auken Bulldog06@aol.com In a message dated Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:57:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dkchal@datasync.com (Donald K. Chalfant) writes: > > Don, > > > > I just got word that Gerrit posted the gears yesterday and they should > > arrive in one to two weeks. The only problem, and the reason I'm > > writing you from work, is my PC ate my email program (it's a long > > story) and I lost all my addresses. Could you post a message on the > > MR2 lists for those people who ordered gears to send me a message with > > their email addresses again. I have their snail mail addresses but I'd > > like to keep them updated via email if I could. BTW I got an extra > > gear so if their's someone who didn't get one ordered we can > > accomodate them. > > > > Thanks for the help. > > BRB > > The Strawberry Kid .. 93T,89SC,86na Twossys Galore .. Seeds be with You ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 08:27:47 -0700 From: Brian Jackson Subject: Re: mr2-digest V2 #3009 vassilios.bertakis@zurich.com wrote: > >4)had reservations about going to a softer spring rate > >up front as that changes the handleing of the car. > >would only reccomend varing spring rates for the tuner > >or someone who knows what they are doing with regard > >to suspension setup. he also suggested that silos > >springs were from the tuner "Postrid" in Germany. > > Now, you can believe what you want, it's your choice. As it > was the choice of several pleased costumers that now have > the costumized springs on their cars. Well, I'm one of those happy customers and I'll reiterate it. The new, softer springs up front made the car *better* riding and *better* handling. It doesn't bottom out the nose over bumps and the ride is so much better that the number of wise cracks from my wife/passenger about "stage coaches" has dropped considerably. The only bottoming issue now is that going over speed bumps the car wants to drag those metal "jack strips" under the sides of the car. Otherwise, ask anyone who did GSRII if there was any indication that my car wasn't handling quite well in the turns or at 120+ across California Valley :) Brian QUIKMR2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:28:03 -0700 From: "Alex Pun" Subject: Re: mr2 Gforce UPDATE $510.00 - Chris King I thought JHS already did this... Alex - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Aucott To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 8:29 PM Subject: Re: mr2 Gforce UPDATE $510.00 - Chris King > Chris, we talked in the fall about me dyno testing your '93T GForce > computer against my stock ECU. Now would be the ultimate time to do > this. We both have APEXi GT spec exhausts, and I think we both have > open intakes (mine is home-brew), so your computer would be pretty well > "programmed" for my car. If you're willing, or anyone else with a '93T > GForce ECU is willing to ship me their computer for a few days, I'll > back-to back dyno the GForce against the stock ECU on my bone stock > except for the above exhaust and filter '93T. I'll test with the GT > spec silencer in and out as well. > > Let me know! If I'm to do it before this $510 deal expires, I need to > move quickly. I'll pay for the dyno time just because... well, I'm > really curious. > > -- > Dave A. > daucott@home.com > http://members.home.net/daucott > '93 MR2 Turbo, '72 Datsun 240Z, '85 CRX CSP Autocrosser > > > Lubricated Goat Racing wrote: > > > > > The deal price is set: $510.00 This is an > > > INCREDIBLE price for a Gforce. > > > > thats great! thanx so much Isrido!!! ill buy you a > > cocktail of your choice when you come to san diego! > > > > terry (non-beta G-Force) > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:37:50 -0700 From: "TurboSW21" Subject: mr2 H&R springs Does anyone else feel that with stock H&R's the front end skitters around a bit? For me when I am on highway sweepers going ~65 and the front hits a bump it seems to bounce off of it.. Could be my shocks, but I feel the stock H&R's are too stiff in front anyways. Too poor to get custom ones just yet... Mike C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:32:40 +0200 From: kevin.adlaf@cp.Novartis.com Subject: mr2 89 MR2 MKII I didn't know they had a 89 MR2 MKII?! I was reading the digest and someone signed of as such. Is this real? Kevin 91 N/A one of the first MKII's Purchased in May of 1990 US ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:16:26 -0400 From: "Tony Wang" Subject: mr2 FS: 93 Turbo My '2 is for sale. Mid-length story, but it's for sale. 1993 MR2 Turbo 90,000 miles Turquoise Pearl (Teal) Tan/Black Leather All factory options including TDSS Asking price: $13,500 (neg.) Mods: K&N Intake MSD SCI Ignition MSD Blaster SS Coil Magnecor KV85 Competition Wires Blitz SSBV Blitz Dual SBC Blitz Dual Turbo Timer Apex GT Spec Exhaust Euro-Spec corner lamps Comments: It's fast. It has excellent low end. The turbo spools very nicely and hits 16 psi with ease. It runs perfect. Synth fluids every 3000 miles. Clutch is very good. The body is in excellent condition. There are two minor dings in the passenger side. The paint is excellent, no faded parts. Comes with a free cupholder. Tony 93t ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:18:09 -0500 From: "David Shotwell" Subject: Re: mr2 More court advice Most states call that Defered Adjudication. David Min, >When you go to court make a point to ask for leniency based on the fact that you >have never been found guilty of a moving violation. In Maryland we have this >great thing known as PBJ, Probation Before Judgment, where you just pay the >fine, no points added and no insurance notified. If you receive another ticket >and are found guilty within a certain amount of time (the probationary period) >both old and new violations go into affect and your insurance will be notified >of both. What is the speed limit on that road? 65? Hmm. Plead the "I have a >clean record" case. > >Good Luck, >Bob > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:38:34 -0700 From: "Hernandez, Andres" Subject: mr2 85 vs 87 engine swap Is putting an 85 engine into an 87 chassis a straight swap ? Andy Hernandez ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:49:24 -0700 From: jhosee@linkline.com Subject: RE: mr2 mk1, coolant overlow lid >Is a tight overflow lid critical for proper cooling system performance? >Allen Sanders Yes Allen it is. My AW11 would keep losing coolant through a cracked overflow bottle lid. I bought a new one for $15 or so discounted. Eventually I lost enough coolant to overheat. I fixed it and all my problems went away. - - Jeffrey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:00:32 -0400 From: Eric Nghiem Subject: mr2 RE;Ticket >I have no other traffic tickets. I have no excuses either. Can anyone think >of one? I need to get out of this ticket, or ateast minimize the >consequences. Everyone in the area talks of a felow named "Mr. Ticket..." He can set the record straight from what we all hear >FYI ~ court is orange county. I live in LA, California. My insurance is only >$600 a year at the most. I'd hate for it to go up. Another reason why NJ sucks....i pay $1600 just for liability, with a clean record ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:03:20 -0400 From: "Roger S. Prior" Subject: mr2 MR2 Distributor Okay, Im going to rebuild my distributor probably in about 2 weeks time. Do I have to drop the engine in order to take it out? I dont have access anymore to a lift so hopefully I wont have to drop it. Thanks! Roger S. Prior 89SC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:00:23 -0500 From: "Larry E Bushaw" Subject: mr2 MKII - transaxle fluid? I've been reading the post about transaxle fluids and I'm confused. My 91NA owners manual calls for automatic transmission fluid in my 5-speed. Is this what you guys are really using? Thanks - Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: davesoares1@prodigy.net Subject: Re: mr2 85 vs 87 engine swap It is a strait swap but why are you going to do that? Better to buy an 88-89 4age. Much better block and not to mention that it will be in better condition. David's MAD MR2 86 MK1 SC 16v 88 SC parts car ---- On Jun 2 "Hernandez, Andres" wrote: > > Is putting an 85 engine into an 87 chassis a straight swap ? > > Andy Hernandez ------------------------------ End of mr2-digest V2 #3011