yea, i see with that last one how it doesnt kick up at the end, just a slight curve. where the 1st one does look rather steep.
got imageshack to work, just a couple other angles. (i know the cut out where my exhaust tip isnt good, gotta do something with it)...
was going to continue it on underneathe more. 1st attempt at something like this.
cheers for your info.