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mr2greasemonkey · 03-12-2007, 11:34 PM

I think if you know what you're doing and the systems you are implementing it on the MS is a pretty decent device. It would be nice to have more of the options and capabilities of the more mainstream costlier units. The MS is a very user intense unit cause you have to do a lot of tuning for each application given it's limits. From a retail point of view, I'd have to agree with Enthalpy when comparing EMS'. On the flip side, if you had the knowledge and means to exploit the MS as a base you could very well end up with the better EMS.

I'm not a tuner, but I am a tech and I do a lot of the diagnosis and troubleshooting at the shop I work at. It's pretty amazing to see all the ingenious ways that different companies go about doing the same things. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this thread that know way more than I do about aftermarket EMS', but when I look back at all the different vehicles that i've worked on they're all pretty much set-up to do the same thing. The technology is amazing in the newer cars. But if you take a ride in a new car and then in an old car, they cruise around just the same. The reality is, the only thing most people notice is the what they can feel. You cant feel the difference between bank fire and sequential fire. You dont feel the difference between a points distributor and coil on plug. No matter how sophisticated you EMS is unless you need to utilise it's full capability you'd never notice the difference with one that has less.

Just my opinion, but i'd like to see us discuss this constructively. I'm helping a friend tune a MSI, fuel only, figured we'd see what it could do. It's on a 4age with a turbo. I have an Innovate DL-32 and LC-1 so we can datalog as much info as we can. The project starts and runs just fine. Still lots of tuning to do, we're making lots of progress. So far it's been pretty good.

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mr2greasemonkey Once again....yups Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,658 Thanks: 4 Thanked 63 Times in 42 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I think if you know what you're doing and the systems you are implementing it on the MS is a pretty decent device. It would be nice to have more of the options and capabilities of the more mainstream costlier units. The MS is a very user intense unit cause you have to do a lot of tuning for each application given it's limits. From a retail point of view, I'd have to agree with Enthalpy when comparing EMS'. On the flip side, if you had the knowledge and means to exploit the MS as a base you could very well end up with the better EMS. I'm not a tuner, but I am a tech and I do a lot of the diagnosis and troubleshooting at the shop I work at. It's pretty amazing to see all the ingenious ways that different companies go about doing the same things. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this thread that know way more than I do about aftermarket EMS', but when I look back at all the different vehicles that i've worked on they're all pretty much set-up to do the same thing. The technology is amazing in the newer cars. But if you take a ride in a new car and then in an old car, they cruise around just the same. The reality is, the only thing most people notice is the what they can feel. You cant feel the difference between bank fire and sequential fire. You dont feel the difference between a points distributor and coil on plug. No matter how sophisticated you EMS is unless you need to utilise it's full capability you'd never notice the difference with one that has less. Just my opinion, but i'd like to see us discuss this constructively. I'm helping a friend tune a MSI, fuel only, figured we'd see what it could do. It's on a 4age with a turbo. I have an Innovate DL-32 and LC-1 so we can datalog as much info as we can. The project starts and runs just fine. Still lots of tuning to do, we're making lots of progress. So far it's been pretty good.