20v gze or 3s

lucky_charms · 10-20-2009, 03:56 PM

thinkin about a swap looking at some options and researching on here....what do u guys think would be best for the mk1

mr220v · 10-20-2009, 05:03 PM

Depends on how much you want to spend.

lucky_charms · 10-20-2009, 05:48 PM

price isnt really an option i just want something reliable

mr220v · 10-20-2009, 05:52 PM

If cost is no issue, an S series motor of some kind is the best way to go. If you want reliability, NA is somewhat better than FI. I'm going beams in my mk1.

You could also go 2zzge. That would be more of a bolt-in.

lucky_charms · 10-20-2009, 06:38 PM

i havent heard or the 2zz swap i mite have to check that out....if i go 3s i kno im going to have to rewire the harness.....can u do this because ive heard u do great 20v work an jus wana kno if u could do the 3s harness

mr220v · 10-20-2009, 08:08 PM

I've wired for all the motors mentioned so far, so whatever you want to put in a mk1, I can wire for it.

lucky_charms · 10-20-2009, 08:13 PM

how much would it be for the gen 3 3s harness cus i think thats what im gona do

mr220v · 10-20-2009, 09:48 PM

3sge or 3sgte? Either way $350

lucky_charms · 10-20-2009, 09:59 PM

3sgte nd do u kno how much tha shipping would be nd do u have any advice for me

lucky_charms · 10-21-2009, 01:03 PM

what all would u need from me to do the harness work

mr220v · 10-21-2009, 02:02 PM

To make a harness, I need the original aw11 engine harness, and the harness you get with your 3sgte.

Kameleon is working up a mount kit for the s54. He's mounting a beams 3sge right now and should be able to duplicate whatever he comes up with. The e153 is a bit different.

My personal preference would be for a beams 3sge. A gen3 3sgte would be faster though.

lucky_charms · 10-21-2009, 02:10 PM

yeah why u say the beams is better

mr220v · 10-21-2009, 02:56 PM

I prefer NA. Just my preference.

lucky_charms · 10-21-2009, 03:59 PM

oh well thats understandable i jus prefer boost so thats why i wanted to go gen 3 because ive heard it takes alot to boost a 20v

mr220v · 10-21-2009, 04:13 PM

Custom lower compression pistons and an aftermarket ecu.

I may have an easy/cheap way to turbo the 16v here shortly (might work for the 20v too). I have some things I'm trying to get tested.

lucky_charms · 10-21-2009, 04:20 PM

yeah thats cool keep me posted because im gona need to do something with my 16v after the swap

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10-20-2009, 05:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	Depends on how much you want to spend.

10-20-2009, 05:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	price isnt really an option i just want something reliable

10-20-2009, 05:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	If cost is no issue, an S series motor of some kind is the best way to go. If you want reliability, NA is somewhat better than FI. I'm going beams in my mk1. You could also go 2zzge. That would be more of a bolt-in.

10-20-2009, 06:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i havent heard or the 2zz swap i mite have to check that out....if i go 3s i kno im going to have to rewire the harness.....can u do this because ive heard u do great 20v work an jus wana kno if u could do the 3s harness

10-20-2009, 08:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	I've wired for all the motors mentioned so far, so whatever you want to put in a mk1, I can wire for it.

10-20-2009, 08:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	how much would it be for the gen 3 3s harness cus i think thats what im gona do

10-20-2009, 09:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	3sge or 3sgte? Either way $350

10-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	3sgte nd do u kno how much tha shipping would be nd do u have any advice for me

10-21-2009, 01:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	what all would u need from me to do the harness work

10-21-2009, 02:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	To make a harness, I need the original aw11 engine harness, and the harness you get with your 3sgte. Kameleon is working up a mount kit for the s54. He's mounting a beams 3sge right now and should be able to duplicate whatever he comes up with. The e153 is a bit different. My personal preference would be for a beams 3sge. A gen3 3sgte would be faster though.

10-21-2009, 02:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yeah why u say the beams is better

10-21-2009, 02:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	I prefer NA. Just my preference.

10-21-2009, 03:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	oh well thats understandable i jus prefer boost so thats why i wanted to go gen 3 because ive heard it takes alot to boost a 20v

10-21-2009, 04:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	Custom lower compression pistons and an aftermarket ecu. I may have an easy/cheap way to turbo the 16v here shortly (might work for the 20v too). I have some things I'm trying to get tested.

10-21-2009, 04:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
lucky_charms custom Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: small ass place in ohio Posts: 244 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yeah thats cool keep me posted because im gona need to do something with my 16v after the swap