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Originally Posted by MR2SW22
BUT, i figured out why my brand new timing belt is shreading itself to death, i think they left off the Timing belt guide so the belt is walking off the cam gears and rubbing on the timing belt cover, bad stuff. needless to say im pissed, i growned the 2 until i get an new belt and this stupid shop gets my car into there to fix what they ****ed up! and he thinks it's ok to charge me 3 hours labor!  if they pull everything off and there is no guide on there, im gonna have a fit like a 3 year old in a candy store 
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The guide that holds the belt on is machined into the water pump pulley so there is no way you can leave it off. There is a washer that goes on the crankshaft before you put the timing belt cover, but that doesn't keep the belt on. I've let 3S motors run for hours while checking for oil leaks and coolant leaks with the timing covers off, the crank washer off and nothing to hold the belt in place except the water pump pulley and never seen a belt go anywhere except right where it was supposed to be. I'm not saying that the shop isn't responsible for the timing belt problem. I just don't like to see anyone smeared with misinformation.