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Originally Posted by RickyB
The guide that holds the belt on is machined into the water pump pulley so there is no way you can leave it off. There is a washer that goes on the crankshaft before you put the timing belt cover, but that doesn't keep the belt on. I've let 3S motors run for hours while checking for oil leaks and coolant leaks with the timing covers off, the crank washer off and nothing to hold the belt in place except the water pump pulley and never seen a belt go anywhere except right where it was supposed to be. I'm not saying that the shop isn't responsible for the timing belt problem. I just don't like to see anyone smeared with misinformation.
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according to the BGB that washer you speak of is refered to as a "timing belt guide", and i was shown a good pic of a side view of a 3s (thanks mopwer)and i see that "guide" on the water pump your talking about also, that's why im at a lost of words as to what could be the problem. i told the mechs here at my work about what's happening and they told me if that washer/timing guide piece is left off the belt can move. 3 toyota trained techs told me that, so naturally i take their opinon into consideration because they have WAY more experience than me

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im willing to bet that the mech that did my work did screw something up, based on the shoty job he did as a whole. he didn't screw in a senor on the side of the head and it leaked oil for 2 months, i took it back and a new tech that "finished" my rebuild found the leak in minutes, fixed it then he told me that the guy that use to work there that started my rebuild wasn't a good mechanic, i was like

. they also over torqued 3 of 4 of my spark plugs, and 1 of the plugs was broke in half when i pulled it out, they were brand new NGK iruidium plugs and because it was broke, it was arching at high RPMS

. i don't trust 2 of the guys that work there, but the one that is working on the car now seems to have a brain in his head, and he's helpful and honest. i told him i wanted him to work on my car this time for that reason.