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seanfromnh · 07-08-2009, 12:50 AM

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My biggest issue with it is that you are NOT going to get enough hydrogen or oxygen in any combination out of such a small, car mounted tank of water to effectively do anything in a chemical sense- remember, in (for example) a 2.0l engine (assuming 100% volumetric efficiency) you are moving 2.0l of air PER REVOLUTION through the intake. That's several thousand litres of atmosphere every minute and I'm not going to be simply convinced that a handful of oxygen or hydrogen atoms from a bucket of water in your trunk is going to have any noticeable, practical impact on that.
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Your right in your numbers but its the fuel thats missing... The air doesn't get swapped with the hydrogen-just the gasoline does.... so instead with that 2.0L your only using about .13L of gas per stroke... at 1,000 rpm thats about 130L/min.... thats alot but not too bad (in my opinion) to make it work a 1.0 turbo charged 3 putter would perform normal and make it alot more achievable....

in my setup i only had three sandwich containers with a gallon and a half of water- pretty easy to hide- i only used 5 amps of power and i made this pretty quickly in my basement.... i made about 10 L/min with my little setup... bump it up to 20 amps and you've got 40 L/min! (i only have three cells) with 10 cells you'll get about 130 L/min- enough for that 2.0 in your MR2!! thats also only five gallons of water which doesn't take up much space at all....

just youtube some videos of it and definately research stan meyers... theres some interesting stuff out there with resonant frequencies and whatnot...

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seanfromnh MRnot2fast Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	[quote=U-235;467993 My biggest issue with it is that you are NOT going to get enough hydrogen or oxygen in any combination out of such a small, car mounted tank of water to effectively do anything in a chemical sense- remember, in (for example) a 2.0l engine (assuming 100% volumetric efficiency) you are moving 2.0l of air PER REVOLUTION through the intake. That's several thousand litres of atmosphere every minute and I'm not going to be simply convinced that a handful of oxygen or hydrogen atoms from a bucket of water in your trunk is going to have any noticeable, practical impact on that. [/QUOTE] Your right in your numbers but its the fuel thats missing... The air doesn't get swapped with the hydrogen-just the gasoline does.... so instead with that 2.0L your only using about .13L of gas per stroke... at 1,000 rpm thats about 130L/min.... thats alot but not too bad (in my opinion) to make it work a 1.0 turbo charged 3 putter would perform normal and make it alot more achievable.... in my setup i only had three sandwich containers with a gallon and a half of water- pretty easy to hide- i only used 5 amps of power and i made this pretty quickly in my basement.... i made about 10 L/min with my little setup... bump it up to 20 amps and you've got 40 L/min! (i only have three cells) with 10 cells you'll get about 130 L/min- enough for that 2.0 in your MR2!! thats also only five gallons of water which doesn't take up much space at all.... just youtube some videos of it and definately research stan meyers... theres some interesting stuff out there with resonant frequencies and whatnot... Last edited by seanfromnh; 07-08-2009 at 01:00 AM.