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Old 07-14-2009, 06:02 AM   #115 (permalink)
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The inefficiency of an internal combustion engine isn't a result of the fuel it uses, it's a result of the factors surrounding the combustion of that fuel (compression, port/direct injection, atomization, timing, mechanical loss, etc.). The fuel used determines the power output of that conversion, and the two are not one in the same- otherwise we'd have replaced petrol with ethanol by now.

And I'm curious to know what these "number that lie" about our motors- stoichiometry doesn't lie.

And your chemistry is ALL WRONG. Adding hydrogen will NOT make the non-expended fuel burn more completely, because gasoline reacts with OXYGEN, not HYDROGEN to produce CO2 and water. Like I said above. There are many, many factors surrounding the efficiency of the burn of a fuel in an engine.

Now, let's move away from this for a moment, because I was focusing the bulk of my discussion on the use of hydrogen as a fuel in a self-contained, self sustained reactor, and not HHO.

HHO is no new news. Oxyhydrogen has been around for over almost 200 years now as the original hi-temp welding gas. And admittedly, it does have an impressive power output. However, you're talking about using a battery to start this reaction, to produce enough HHO to sustain several thousand RPMs in an engine that due to mechanical power transfer is only 30-40% efficient, which then has to convert that power back to electricity to electrolyze more water? I would believe it if it wasn't for one gigantic, glaring, flaw: the thing that makes burning HHO efficient is that it is a self-sustaining reaction post initial ignition and in welding there is no mechanical transfer. Due to the power cycle of an engine being interrupted by design in addition to a ton of mechanical transfer it'll never work.

You can also stop linking this Stanley Meyer guy. I don't like attacking people directly because I prefer numbers\results to stand over the credentials of any person. The claims of his fuel cell technology were ruled fraudulent by an Ohio superior court after investigating his car and he was forced to repay all investors when the products he provided them with also failed to deliver as claimed. His efforts failed miserably.

This man, and his technology has been debunked in every way scientific and legal, but somewhere some conspiracy theorist decided to keep the myth alive.

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