Thread: Gen3 Debate
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Old 03-14-2005, 01:38 PM   #46 (permalink)
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The problem I am seeing is whether it actually IS more economical to choose to swap a Gen2 vs a Gen3 (as in BUYING a JDM clip, which should a person buy)

Once you get your Gen3 clip, you can sell of the ct20b (~$700-800) and 94 JDM (! lol) tails ($300-400). That gains you $1000-1200 back right there.

Then consider going to an EMS. You don't have to buy new sensors to convert from AFM to MAP system. That's a decent amount of money right there.

For the actual EMS you can just plug a PowerFC (proven to power MR2s into the 9s) and voila! nothing else needed.

I think Ken's point is valid from the standpoint of:
"I just blew my Gen2 and need to buy a new motor or rebuild" -OR- "My Gen2 works fine but I went to build a 400+ rwhp MR2 and thus need to build SOMETHING".

For both of these points, it makes little sense to scrap the Gen2 and buy a Gen3. Sure there are advantages but it will still be cheaper to go with rebuilding/building the Gen2. Though with the quality of many rebuilds (as you can attest to Ken), many people are nervous to rebuild and prefer an OEM replacement. In this instance they are offered the choice of buying a new OEM shortblock or swapping a new motor. A shortblock is what, ~$1400?

So what needs to be done is look more carefully at the price of Gen3 swaps. If you can get a clip for $3500 (and then sell off the "goodies") then I see NO reason to either rebuild back to stock or buy a Gen2.

For people doing NA swaps I see ZERO reason to buy a JDM Gen2 over a Gen3.

In summary....

one should go Gen2 if:
1. They already have one
-AND-
2. They want big power

one should go Gen3 if:
1. They have NO motor / NA motor
-OR-
2. They have a blown motor and don't plan on building their motor internally
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