The ct27

Redlyne_mr2 · 07-27-2006, 12:56 PM

I am thinking about ordering a ct27, can I mail you guys my core in advance to inspect so that I know if I qualify for the full core refund or not?

Do you have any ct27s in stock?

I have an extra jdm ceramic ct26 missing one fin on the exhaust side, are you interested in taking it in as well for a small refund on my purchase?

thanks ATS

kblake · 07-27-2006, 03:24 PM

Yes, you can send your core in advance. Send the other core too, if you want, and Aaron will inspect it and tell you what he would be willing to give you for it.

We have some in stock, but they are all sold/shipping out. We should have more in stock in a few days, assuming nobody buys them before then.

Thanks,

Ken

ATSAaron · 08-03-2006, 11:06 AM

Inventory changes FAST around here, but as of today I have 1 CT27 in stock, 2 that need to be assembled, and 2 more on the assembly line.

Aaron

pwntednoobster · 01-04-2007, 02:56 PM

i have a ct27 if i want to get 300 whp what do i need as fuel. do i need a new fuel pump to support 300whp. i know i need a fuel rail,FPR and rom tune with race maps.

kblake · 01-04-2007, 06:09 PM

you will need everything listed, plus a Walbro or Supra fuel pump.

pwntednoobster · 01-04-2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblake

you will need everything listed, plus a Walbro or Supra fuel pump.

would i need 550's

kblake · 01-04-2007, 09:54 PM

canadam · 01-04-2007, 09:55 PM

Does ATS recommend the Supra or Walboro ?

kblake · 01-04-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadam

Does ATS recommend the Supra or Walboro ?

They each have their advantages. The Walbro is less expensive, and draws less amperage. (which probably only matters to people installing more than one pump)

The Supra (Denso) pump is more expensive, but is also more reliable. It draws more amperage than the Walbro.

Some people have reported that the Walbro is noisier than the Supra pump. In my own experience, I couldn't hear either of them from inside the car.

Ken

canadam · 01-04-2007, 10:15 PM

Sorry, I forgot to ask- does the Supra pump plug directly into the MR2 harness ?

kblake · 01-05-2007, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadam

Sorry, I forgot to ask- does the Supra pump plug directly into the MR2 harness ?

Yes it does. I guess that should be listed as an advantage over the Walbro, for those who don't like solder or crimp joints.

Ken

pwntednoobster · 01-08-2007, 07:59 PM

i was looking on your website on the projest cars. one of them with a ct27 and i was wondering why you guys dont use cams to get more power?

kblake · 01-08-2007, 08:08 PM

You mean Aaron's 93T? That's his wife's daily driver. It's not really worth installing cams with a small turbo like a CT27.

ATSAaron · 01-08-2007, 09:42 PM

Cam's don't help much on a CT27.

Aaron

RePete · 01-09-2007, 12:05 AM

All this talk of increased performance is intriguing. But I'm thinking of replacing my turbo in the near future - not for more power - but because it's getting old and my auto-tech says it's starting to sweat. Still pulls as hard as years ago but I think it's nearing the end of its life cycle and I'd like to replace it before it dies.

I've priced a new replacement CT26 at about $1,800 and some change. Now, I'm not overly concerned about that price. It's just if I get your CT27:

- Will it be as smooth & reliable as the factory turbo?

- Does it need other replacement parts for it to work properly, can I just bolt it on to my stock engine in place of my current CT26?

- Will it still have that nice whistle sound behind my right ear?

canadam · 01-09-2007, 02:25 AM

In addition to RePete's questions:

- If I replace my CT26 in an otherwise stock motor with a CT27 will I see gains?
- What kind of warranty is included?
- Does it have a similar life expectancy to my OEM turbo?

kblake · 01-09-2007, 03:47 AM

Hi guys,

The CT27 will be as smooth as the stock turbo, but will keep pulling where the stock turbo falls on it's face.

It has a 6 month/unlimited miles warranty against manufacturer defects. In my personal experience, I ran the identical compressor upgrade for 3 years/45k miles without ever having a problem. Aaron has had the CT27 installed on his 93T for almost 3 years now, at 17PSI, and his wife daily drives and autocrosses the car.

There are no additional parts needed, other than perhaps new OEM gaskets. We do recommend an aftermarket down pipe, exhaust, and intercooler to get maximum benefit from the CT27, but they are not necessary to install and use it.

The sound is a little deeper in pitch than a stock turbo, probably due to the different geometry of the larger compressor wheel.

Here is a bone stock 93T (except for an Apexi intake) @ 10PSI. The red run is stock, the blue one is with a CT27 installed, running at the same 10PSI:

Best regards,

Ken

MrGrimm · 01-09-2007, 12:38 PM

that is impressive... i plan on getting one too

whats an average install time if you dont mind me asking? i never have had to deal with taking the turbo off while the engine is installed

kblake · 01-09-2007, 01:27 PM

If the car is completely stock, with the stock primary cat and turbine elbow in place, I would plan on a full day, with a friend helping. It can go a lot faster, but it depends on how seized up the stock bolts are. It helps a lot to soak them thoroughly with PB Blaster the night before. If it's not your daily driver, you could soak it every night for 3 or 4 nights before the job.

Ken

RePete · 01-09-2007, 07:43 PM

Thanks for the info, Ken. That dyno chart is impressive, it looks like that's the sort of power change you can actually feel at the seat of your pants. You've given me something to seriously consider.

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Redlyne_mr2 I Pump Cougars Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 239 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The ct27 I am thinking about ordering a ct27, can I mail you guys my core in advance to inspect so that I know if I qualify for the full core refund or not? Do you have any ct27s in stock? I have an extra jdm ceramic ct26 missing one fin on the exhaust side, are you interested in taking it in as well for a small refund on my purchase? thanks ATS

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07-27-2006, 03:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Yes, you can send your core in advance. Send the other core too, if you want, and Aaron will inspect it and tell you what he would be willing to give you for it. We have some in stock, but they are all sold/shipping out. We should have more in stock in a few days, assuming nobody buys them before then. Thanks, Ken

08-03-2006, 11:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
ATSAaron ATS Racing Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 252 Thanks: 8 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	Inventory changes FAST around here, but as of today I have 1 CT27 in stock, 2 that need to be assembled, and 2 more on the assembly line. Aaron

01-04-2007, 02:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
pwntednoobster 91 mr2 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 233 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	i have a ct27 if i want to get 300 whp what do i need as fuel. do i need a new fuel pump to support 300whp. i know i need a fuel rail,FPR and rom tune with race maps.

01-04-2007, 06:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	you will need everything listed, plus a Walbro or Supra fuel pump.

01-04-2007, 10:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
canadam MidshipExpress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 10,399 Thanks: 120 Thanked 142 Times in 121 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (34/100% )	Sorry, I forgot to ask- does the Supra pump plug directly into the MR2 harness ?

01-08-2007, 07:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
pwntednoobster 91 mr2 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 233 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	i was looking on your website on the projest cars. one of them with a ct27 and i was wondering why you guys dont use cams to get more power?

01-08-2007, 08:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	You mean Aaron's 93T? That's his wife's daily driver. It's not really worth installing cams with a small turbo like a CT27.

01-08-2007, 09:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
ATSAaron ATS Racing Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 252 Thanks: 8 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	Cam's don't help much on a CT27. Aaron

01-09-2007, 12:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
RePete No Frills Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western Canada Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 253 Times in 243 Posts Blog Entries: 4 iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	All this talk of increased performance is intriguing. But I'm thinking of replacing my turbo in the near future - not for more power - but because it's getting old and my auto-tech says it's starting to sweat. Still pulls as hard as years ago but I think it's nearing the end of its life cycle and I'd like to replace it before it dies. I've priced a new replacement CT26 at about $1,800 and some change. Now, I'm not overly concerned about that price. It's just if I get your CT27: - Will it be as smooth & reliable as the factory turbo? - Does it need other replacement parts for it to work properly, can I just bolt it on to my stock engine in place of my current CT26? - Will it still have that nice whistle sound behind my right ear?

01-09-2007, 02:25 AM	#16 (permalink)
canadam MidshipExpress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 10,399 Thanks: 120 Thanked 142 Times in 121 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (34/100% )	In addition to RePete's questions: - If I replace my CT26 in an otherwise stock motor with a CT27 will I see gains? - What kind of warranty is included? - Does it have a similar life expectancy to my OEM turbo?

01-09-2007, 03:47 AM	#17 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Hi guys, The CT27 will be as smooth as the stock turbo, but will keep pulling where the stock turbo falls on it's face. It has a 6 month/unlimited miles warranty against manufacturer defects. In my personal experience, I ran the identical compressor upgrade for 3 years/45k miles without ever having a problem. Aaron has had the CT27 installed on his 93T for almost 3 years now, at 17PSI, and his wife daily drives and autocrosses the car. There are no additional parts needed, other than perhaps new OEM gaskets. We do recommend an aftermarket down pipe, exhaust, and intercooler to get maximum benefit from the CT27, but they are not necessary to install and use it. The sound is a little deeper in pitch than a stock turbo, probably due to the different geometry of the larger compressor wheel. Here is a bone stock 93T (except for an Apexi intake) @ 10PSI. The red run is stock, the blue one is with a CT27 installed, running at the same 10PSI: Best regards, Ken

01-09-2007, 12:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
MrGrimm n00b Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 408 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	that is impressive... i plan on getting one too whats an average install time if you dont mind me asking? i never have had to deal with taking the turbo off while the engine is installed

01-09-2007, 01:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	If the car is completely stock, with the stock primary cat and turbine elbow in place, I would plan on a full day, with a friend helping. It can go a lot faster, but it depends on how seized up the stock bolts are. It helps a lot to soak them thoroughly with PB Blaster the night before. If it's not your daily driver, you could soak it every night for 3 or 4 nights before the job. Ken

01-09-2007, 07:43 PM	#20 (permalink)
RePete No Frills Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western Canada Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 253 Times in 243 Posts Blog Entries: 4 iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Thanks for the info, Ken. That dyno chart is impressive, it looks like that's the sort of power change you can actually feel at the seat of your pants. You've given me something to seriously consider.