TD05/TD06?

pwntednoobster · 08-05-2006, 10:39 PM

What is the difference between your td05 and tdo6 kits?

AndrewMcG · 08-05-2006, 10:53 PM

Not much difference in spool but TD06 has a better top end for sho. And there's like $100-$150 difference.

Sang · 08-05-2006, 11:27 PM

spools about the same, but power output is substantially lower IMO. for another $150, i'd rather get a tdo6 20g. if you wanted a tdo5, i'd try and get a 16g

PHOENIX · 08-06-2006, 01:20 AM

So since people are paying a substantial amount of money for the kit, why not spring for the extra $150?

Just curious, i hear more about people with there tdo5's than there tdo6's

kblake · 08-06-2006, 04:35 AM

Actually, there are a lot more people with the TD06 than the TD05. The TD05 is only about $300 more expensive than a Greddy TD06SH, with all of the flaws of that kit rectified. It's the only full kit with an external wastegate that costs less than $2k.

For someone who is looking for ~300RWHP on pump gas, the TD05 combo #1 is the absolute least expensive path on the market. (Safely)

the TD06 costs a bit more, but has more room to grow. Some people need that, some don't.

Best regards,

Ken

PHOENIX · 08-06-2006, 05:04 AM

thanks ken

pwntednoobster · 08-06-2006, 09:42 PM

thanks guys just wanted to know.

pwntednoobster · 08-08-2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblake

Actually, there are a lot more people with the TD06 than the TD05. The TD05 is only about $300 more expensive than a Greddy TD06SH, with all of the flaws of that kit rectified. It's the only full kit with an external wastegate that costs less than $2k.

For someone who is looking for ~300RWHP on pump gas, the TD05 combo #1 is the absolute least expensive path on the market. (Safely)

the TD06 costs a bit more, but has more room to grow. Some people need that, some don't.

Best regards,

Ken

Now withyour turbo kits tdo5/06. I mnow you guys bore out the fuel rail. Do you guys do dual feed ones? and do they work right with yourrom tunes?

kblake · 08-08-2006, 07:11 PM

We can do dual feed, but it's not necessary at the power level currently achievable by the ROM tune/550's. It will however, work fine with the ROM tunes.

pwntednoobster · 08-08-2006, 10:59 PM

Hey Ken, do you anybody that makes a good quality ss manifold for your tdo6 kits?

kblake · 08-09-2006, 12:04 PM

There's really no such thing, which is why we have all of our kits adapt to the stock manifold. In our experience, even the name brand tubular manifolds, like the one in the Greddy T67 kit, all crack.

The stock manifold has shown itself more than capable of supporting high horsepower. I know of several cars making mid-high 400WHP through the stock manifold, and Aaron's car put down 588RWHP on it's second or third pass on the dyno, before he started lifting the head. (ATS GT35R kit @ 27PSI, untuned)

Best regards,

Ken

pwntednoobster · 08-12-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblake

There's really no such thing, which is why we have all of our kits adapt to the stock manifold. In our experience, even the name brand tubular manifolds, like the one in the Greddy T67 kit, all crack.

The stock manifold has shown itself more than capable of supporting high horsepower. I know of several cars making mid-high 400WHP through the stock manifold, and Aaron's car put down 588RWHP on it's second or third pass on the dyno, before he started lifting the head. (ATS GT35R kit @ 27PSI, untuned)

Best regards,

Ken

how many rwhp do your tdo6 kits usually put out on a stock mot0r?

Sang · 08-12-2006, 02:40 PM

^ it will take you to the limits of the fuel system. about 270whp on pump at ~15psi

kblake · 08-12-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwntednoobster

how many rwhp do your tdo6 kits usually put out on a stock mot0r?

It depends on the supporting modifications. Our combo #1 plus a boost controller, intercooler and exhaust usually gets 300-310RWHP @17PSI on pump, and ~350RWHP on race gas @22PSI with the dual map option.

The combos are listed here:

http://www.atsracing.net/combokitsTD05.htm

There is no (safe) less expensive way to that power level.

Ken

pwntednoobster · 08-12-2006, 04:47 PM

thanks

pwntednoobster · 08-12-2006, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblake

It depends on the supporting modifications. Our combo #1 plus a boost controller, intercooler and exhaust usually gets 300-310RWHP @17PSI on pump, and ~350RWHP on race gas @22PSI with the dual map option.

The combos are listed here:

http://www.atsracing.net/combokitsTD05.htm

There is no (safe) less expensive way to that power level.

Ken

is 22 psi safe on a stock motor with an intercooler, exhaust?

kblake · 08-12-2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwntednoobster

is 22 psi safe on a stock motor with an intercooler, exhaust?

Yes, on race gas, with a Walbro, our bored rail, modified FPR, 550's, and the ROM tune to run them.

pwntednoobster · 08-20-2006, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblake

Yes, on race gas, with a Walbro, our bored rail, modified FPR, 550's, and the ROM tune to run them.

I have ct 26 and I want to give it too you guys at ATS. Would you give me any money for it?

pwntednoobster · 08-21-2006, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblake

Yes, on race gas, with a Walbro, our bored rail, modified FPR, 550's, and the ROM tune to run them.

Does your combo packages come with your ats fuel pressure regulater

kblake · 08-21-2006, 03:58 PM

No. They come with the bored fuel rail. The FPR is only needed if you plan to also get the dual map option, and max out the 550's on race gas.

So that would be $75 extra (plus core) for the FPR, and $50 extra for the dual map.

Best regards,

Ken

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AndrewMcG Its not lag, Its foreplay Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 756 Thanks: 6 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Not much difference in spool but TD06 has a better top end for sho. And there's like $100-$150 difference.

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Sang Turtle Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FL Posts: 4,096 Thanks: 18 Thanked 267 Times in 246 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	spools about the same, but power output is substantially lower IMO. for another $150, i'd rather get a tdo6 20g. if you wanted a tdo5, i'd try and get a 16g

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PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	So since people are paying a substantial amount of money for the kit, why not spring for the extra $150? Just curious, i hear more about people with there tdo5's than there tdo6's

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kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Actually, there are a lot more people with the TD06 than the TD05. The TD05 is only about $300 more expensive than a Greddy TD06SH, with all of the flaws of that kit rectified. It's the only full kit with an external wastegate that costs less than $2k. For someone who is looking for ~300RWHP on pump gas, the TD05 combo #1 is the absolute least expensive path on the market. (Safely) the TD06 costs a bit more, but has more room to grow. Some people need that, some don't. Best regards, Ken

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PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	thanks ken

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pwntednoobster 91 mr2 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 233 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	thanks guys just wanted to know.

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kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	We can do dual feed, but it's not necessary at the power level currently achievable by the ROM tune/550's. It will however, work fine with the ROM tunes.

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pwntednoobster 91 mr2 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 233 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Hey Ken, do you anybody that makes a good quality ss manifold for your tdo6 kits?

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kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	There's really no such thing, which is why we have all of our kits adapt to the stock manifold. In our experience, even the name brand tubular manifolds, like the one in the Greddy T67 kit, all crack. The stock manifold has shown itself more than capable of supporting high horsepower. I know of several cars making mid-high 400WHP through the stock manifold, and Aaron's car put down 588RWHP on it's second or third pass on the dyno, before he started lifting the head. (ATS GT35R kit @ 27PSI, untuned) Best regards, Ken

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Sang Turtle Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FL Posts: 4,096 Thanks: 18 Thanked 267 Times in 246 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	^ it will take you to the limits of the fuel system. about 270whp on pump at ~15psi

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kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	No. They come with the bored fuel rail. The FPR is only needed if you plan to also get the dual map option, and max out the 550's on race gas. So that would be $75 extra (plus core) for the FPR, and $50 extra for the dual map. Best regards, Ken