What do these pinout abbreviations mean?

Roman · 02-24-2007, 12:34 AM

As above... any help appriciated!!

(SL)
(S1)
(S2)

RSD

CF

EVG

VG

NE+

NE-

(R)

-2

OD2

PWR

(L)

ACT

mr220v · 02-24-2007, 10:13 AM

(SL) AT transmission solenoid
(S1) AT transmission solenoid
(S2) AT transmission solenoid

RSD idle control

CF coolingfan

EVG airflow meter

VG airflow meter

NE+ position sensor (cam or crank)

NE- position sensor (cam or crank)

(R)

-2

OD2 overdrive

PWR

(L)

ACT AC

I'll have to look up the rest and verify which position sensor is which.

Roman · 02-24-2007, 08:02 PM

Love your work MR220V.

Thanks.

I've almost completed my redtop > altezza pinout comparison, I just needed to know what those last few were for.

It looks like I might have a few interesting problems!

The Altezza doesnt have an air idle bypass for the throttle. since it has the throttle plate controlled by a stepper motor, it adjusts the idle speed by manipulating the throttle plate angle. So I'm not quite sure how to get the redtop idle speed control working....

I could use an altezza throttle body on my carina, since I'm using altezza intake manifold anyway, but this wont work on my MR2.

There's obviously a way around it though, or the brashboy ECU wouldnt exist.

Also, the Atlezza ECU controls HEAPS more things than the redtop does! Heaps of things are going to be obsolete/redundant. like ABS, traction control, lots of aircon control, etc.

mr220v · 02-24-2007, 09:48 PM

I thought the two motors used the same basic idle control valve? The stepper motor on the blacktop TB was something else, not controled by the rsd pin.

That stepper motor and the extra vvti solenoid are the biggest obstacles to getting this to work. An aftermarket ecu should be less picky about missing stuff.

I guess the only way to know for sure is to pin it up and see how it works. The pinouts didn't seem too different.

PHOENIX · 02-24-2007, 10:49 PM

we really need to finish this.

Quote:

A1 #10 Injector #1 Blue
A2 #20 Injector #2 Black-White
A3 #30 Injector #3 Black-Orange
A4 #40 Injector #4 Black-Yellow
A5
A6 (SL)
A7 (S 1)
A8 (S 2)
A9
A10 IGT 1 Ignitor #1 Blue
A11 IGT 2 Ignitor #2 Red-Blue
A12 IGT 3 Ignitor #3 Blue-White
A13 IGT 4 Ignitor #4 White-Red
A14
A15
A16
A17
A18 RSD Idle Speed Control Black-White
A19
A20
A21 EO1 Earth (Engine) Brown
A22
A23 OCV- VVTi White
A24 OCV+ VVTi Red
A25
A26
A27 KNK Knock Detector Clear
A28 CF Cooling Fan Green/Blue
A29
A30
A31 EO2 Earth (Engine) Brown
B1 EVG Air Flow Sensor Earth Yellow-Red
B2 VC 5V + Red
B3 HT Oxygen Sensor Heater Yellow-Green
B4 PRG Evap Purge Valve Pink-Blue
B5
B6
B7
B8 STA Starter Black
B9 ION 1 Ignitor #1 Signal Return Red-Blue (Silver Spot)
B10 ION 2 Ignitor #2 Signal Return Red-Yellow
B11 VG Airflow Meter Blue-Black
B12 OX 1 Oxygen Sensor Beige
B13
B14 THW Engine Water Temperature Green
B15 G2+ Black-White
B16 NE+ Black-White
B17 E1 ISV Earth Brown
B18 E2 TPS Earth Brown
B19 ION 3 Ignitor #3 Signal Return Green-Black
B20 ION 4 Ignitor #4 Signal Return Light Green-Blue
B21
B22 THA Intake Air Temp Yellow-Black
B23 VTA Throttle Position Signal Black-White
B24 NE- Blue
C1
C2 ( R ) Reverse Grey
C3
C4 Blue-Black (Silver Spot)
C5 TC Check Connector (12v)
C6 STP Stop light switch
C7 Orange
C8
C9
C10 (OD 2)
C11 (PWR) patern select switch2
C12 (L)
C13 ACT Air Conditioning
C14
C15
C16 Green-Yellow
C17
C18
C19
C20 (NSW) Neutral Start Switch Black-White ?
C21 (MNU)
C22 SPD Speed Signal Violet ?
C23 Green-White
C24 TC White-Blue
C25
C26
C27
C28
D1 BATT Battery + Pink
D2
D3 FC Circuit Opening Relay Green-Red
D4
D5
D6 W Warning Red-Blue
D7 PSW Power Steering Pressure Switch Green-Yellow
D8
D9
D10
D11 SIL Check Connector (Signal) Yellow
D12
D13
D14
D15
D16 IG+/+B Igniton(12v) Black-Red
D17
D18
D19 ELS Rear Window Demister Orange
D20
D21
D22

Roman · 02-24-2007, 11:17 PM

Okay well attached is the comparison that I've made so far.

Would pay not to take it as gospel as of yet, I'm gonna proof check it a few times before I do anything with it.

However please note that since my altezza pinout shows 5 plugs going into the ECU (5th plug in the middle is for auto only) my pins are labelled ABCDE, with 'C' being the middle plug. (As this is how they are shown on the altezza pinout... so redtop 'C' pins have been moved to 'D' pins, and 'D' pins are shown as 'E' pins)

mr2mkii · 04-10-2010, 12:33 AM

Any update on this pinout guide for the 3sge Beams redtop?

puretone · 04-10-2010, 05:41 PM

Guys!!!

Roman is making excuses to not work on his car and therefor procrastinate some more. He knows damn well what those pins all stand for!!!! AND HE KNOWS DAMN WELL WHERE TO FIND THAT INFO!!!

I cannot believe that in this day and age you guys all fell for it!!

is it done yet?

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02-24-2007, 10:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,527 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	(SL) AT transmission solenoid (S1) AT transmission solenoid (S2) AT transmission solenoid RSD idle control CF coolingfan EVG airflow meter VG airflow meter NE+ position sensor (cam or crank) NE- position sensor (cam or crank) (R) -2 OD2 overdrive PWR (L) ACT AC I'll have to look up the rest and verify which position sensor is which.

02-24-2007, 08:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 946 Thanks: 23 Thanked 56 Times in 36 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Love your work MR220V. Thanks. I've almost completed my redtop > altezza pinout comparison, I just needed to know what those last few were for. It looks like I might have a few interesting problems! The Altezza doesnt have an air idle bypass for the throttle. since it has the throttle plate controlled by a stepper motor, it adjusts the idle speed by manipulating the throttle plate angle. So I'm not quite sure how to get the redtop idle speed control working.... I could use an altezza throttle body on my carina, since I'm using altezza intake manifold anyway, but this wont work on my MR2. There's obviously a way around it though, or the brashboy ECU wouldnt exist. Also, the Atlezza ECU controls HEAPS more things than the redtop does! Heaps of things are going to be obsolete/redundant. like ABS, traction control, lots of aircon control, etc.

02-24-2007, 09:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,527 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	I thought the two motors used the same basic idle control valve? The stepper motor on the blacktop TB was something else, not controled by the rsd pin. That stepper motor and the extra vvti solenoid are the biggest obstacles to getting this to work. An aftermarket ecu should be less picky about missing stuff. I guess the only way to know for sure is to pin it up and see how it works. The pinouts didn't seem too different.

04-10-2010, 12:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
mr2mkii Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Laval, Qc, Canada Posts: 516 Thanks: 9 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Any update on this pinout guide for the 3sge Beams redtop?

04-10-2010, 05:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Guys!!! Roman is making excuses to not work on his car and therefor procrastinate some more. He knows damn well what those pins all stand for!!!! AND HE KNOWS DAMN WELL WHERE TO FIND THAT INFO!!! I cannot believe that in this day and age you guys all fell for it!! is it done yet?