Phoenix Power Exhaust Manifold - Page 4

puretone · 04-30-2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xinkid

I wish our USDM 5SFE's came with a header

they don't come with headers? i could have sworn i saw a 96 5sfe camry with one, and its was all OEM

WFX · 05-21-2007, 10:25 PM

OK finally received the REAL BEAMS manifold:

The pipes on this are not as thick as the 3SGE Gen 3 header, they're only 2cm thick! Still the workman ship is just as good. It also only uses the left hand bracket to hold the manifold on rather then both on the original (guess thats a little more less weight

) and as the dimensions are the same as the stock one (only lighter and different path) it means your original B-pipe bolts right up without any modification unless you wish to go bigger of course!

Anyone know what I can use to polish this baby up? Steel wool? I dunno!

PHOENIX · 05-21-2007, 10:59 PM

Cermachrome will look nice. I know you can get headers done in the states for about $130 bucks.

Can we get a cliff's notes on this thread......

What has the conclusion of this research come out too? Will other Gen 3S-GE's or even 3S-GTE's headers/exhaust manifolds fit the Beams engine?

puretone · 05-22-2007, 12:48 PM

http://6gc.net/photo/member/1026/64 looks suspiciously alot like your manifold WFX...maybe he didnt custom make it after all, eventho the runners do look pretty damn wide diameter....

Marco69 · 05-22-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WFX

OK finally received the REAL BEAMS manifold:

The pipes on this are not as thick as the 3SGE Gen 3 header, they're only 2cm thick! Still the workman ship is just as good. It also only uses the left hand bracket to hold the manifold on rather then both on the original (guess thats a little more less weight

) and as the dimensions are the same as the stock one (only lighter and different path) it means your original B-pipe bolts right up without any modification unless you wish to go bigger of course!

Anyone know what I can use to polish this baby up? Steel wool? I dunno!

Can you post where to get this header and how much they cost (if you don't mind of course)? Does it come with a b-pipe?

Thanks,
Marco

da_horse · 05-22-2007, 01:15 PM

from page 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by WFX

I finally found one!!! YIPPEEE!!!

Ive been a member of Taka Kaira for quite sometime now and have repeatly asked them to stock such brands as Phoenix Power and they have finally come through for me!! Ive bought heaps of stuff from these guys in the past and fully support them!

TakaKeira Online

Well it might hurt me in shipping but I'm definately putting one of these babies on order!!

We have a source for exhaust mainifolds we can buy directly off a website now guys, ENJOY!!

Marco69 · 05-22-2007, 02:17 PM

Don't I feel like an idiot!!!

I went to the page and they list part # 76592 (97/12 99/10) as 5 bolt VVTi header just like the picture.
I guess what got you is that they list 76591 as VVTi as well!

Thanks,
Marco

WFX · 05-22-2007, 10:31 PM

They originally never had our 98/99 VVTi part number on there untill I quized them about getting the right item sent out. It was that other part number for the 96/97 with VVTi that i got tricked on thinking it was the same. So yeah atleast the part number we all need is there now!

I would say Phoenix that 98/99 BEAMS models are all only 5 bolt and there is no other manifold that we've spoken about that would fit.

Puretone that header that Malki has on his 6th gen is the phoenix one I have now... read his spec sheet its on there!

Can anyone confirm if the greytop BEAMS has a 5 bolt header or 6 bolt like I originally got?

PHOENIX · 05-22-2007, 10:55 PM

Im baffled, because there is a current member of the beams community who has a turboed Beams (The guy in Ireland, with the Celica). I talked to him the other night, and he stated that his manifold, was cast, not steel/tubular.

This is why Im baffled with the whole thing, and have asked this question many times.

Hopefully, I can get some pics from him, and figure it out from there.

WFX · 06-09-2007, 05:47 AM

Manifold is finally polished and just finished fitting it today! The difference is very nice. Its more responsive then before and it has a little rexy sound too!

Ill get some pics up shortly!

nikk1877 · 06-09-2007, 04:38 PM

we need sound clips!!!!!! we DEMAND sound clips!

WFX · 06-10-2007, 12:36 AM

Haha yeah ill get some sound clips ASAP!!

Fow now enjoy some photos:

ENJOY!!!

nikk1877 · 06-12-2007, 05:18 AM

it looks amazing WFX - i really need to get one soon + the rest of the Phoenix's system. Hoping that will get me upto 160-165whp after I sort out my other issues.

mr220v · 06-12-2007, 11:39 AM

I'm having a header and bpipe combo made right now. It will be compatible with off the shelf obx bpipes.

The guy who makes it will be offering more for sale once we get the kinks worked out.

The price should be around $300-$400. Pretty good considering it will cost you $200+ just to get a custom bpipe made at a typical muffler shop. Also a very nice option for people who are running the caldina motor and want to get rid of the manifold/cat combo. Hopefully i'll have some pics of it in the next week or two.

puretone · 06-13-2007, 10:23 PM

i vote WFX as most BEAMS-Bling on this board, geek.

PHOENIX · 06-13-2007, 10:49 PM

^ 2nd

puretone · 06-14-2007, 12:07 AM

hey WFX that koyo looks slick eh? you and your double fans tho, i hate you now

/me just has one measly flex-a-lite rad-fan....

WFX · 06-14-2007, 10:44 AM

Hey the BEAMS deserved to be blinged alight!

Puretone the double fan was a b!tch to mount thou ay haha only just got clearence with the new manifold but damn this puppy cools very well, runs atleast 10 degrees cooler now and the fans have that feature where they still cool even after turning the car off sort of like a turbo timer for turbos. I think the new Hondas have this feature too!

I took some footage/audio tonight in the car from my mobile so Ill see whats worth putting up and show yas all!

WFX · 06-14-2007, 01:31 PM

Ive uploaded some footage but its a little dodgy as I used my camera phone but atleast it gies you a little idea:

WaynO's 3SGE BEAMS Road Test

ENJOY!!

Roman · 06-15-2007, 09:39 AM

Aaah long time no post/forum browsing (Damn real life stuff going on! *shakes fist*)

Okay today I pulled all of the heat wrap off my exhaust manifold, which is/was alledgedly a TOMS manifold.

Well it's definitely not the standard manifold, OR the pheonix power one! The pipes are made from welded segments of pipe, and the first stub sections coming off the flange are all straight, and then bend into curves etc onwards from there. The weld positions are different to pheonix power ones. I'll snap some pics tomorrow.

So there's definitely another aftermarket manifold option, I wonder if it really is a TOMS one, or something else again?

05-22-2007, 02:17 PM	#67 (permalink)
Marco69 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 41 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Don't I feel like an idiot!!! I went to the page and they list part # 76592 (97/12 99/10) as 5 bolt VVTi header just like the picture. I guess what got you is that they list 76591 as VVTi as well! Thanks, Marco Last edited by Marco69; 05-22-2007 at 02:26 PM..

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05-21-2007, 10:25 PM	#62 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	OK finally received the REAL BEAMS manifold: The pipes on this are not as thick as the 3SGE Gen 3 header, they're only 2cm thick! Still the workman ship is just as good. It also only uses the left hand bracket to hold the manifold on rather then both on the original (guess thats a little more less weight ) and as the dimensions are the same as the stock one (only lighter and different path) it means your original B-pipe bolts right up without any modification unless you wish to go bigger of course! Anyone know what I can use to polish this baby up? Steel wool? I dunno!

05-21-2007, 10:59 PM	#63 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	Cermachrome will look nice. I know you can get headers done in the states for about $130 bucks. Can we get a cliff's notes on this thread...... What has the conclusion of this research come out too? Will other Gen 3S-GE's or even 3S-GTE's headers/exhaust manifolds fit the Beams engine?

05-22-2007, 12:48 PM	#64 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	http://6gc.net/photo/member/1026/64 looks suspiciously alot like your manifold WFX...maybe he didnt custom make it after all, eventho the runners do look pretty damn wide diameter....

05-22-2007, 10:31 PM	#68 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	They originally never had our 98/99 VVTi part number on there untill I quized them about getting the right item sent out. It was that other part number for the 96/97 with VVTi that i got tricked on thinking it was the same. So yeah atleast the part number we all need is there now! I would say Phoenix that 98/99 BEAMS models are all only 5 bolt and there is no other manifold that we've spoken about that would fit. Puretone that header that Malki has on his 6th gen is the phoenix one I have now... read his spec sheet its on there! Can anyone confirm if the greytop BEAMS has a 5 bolt header or 6 bolt like I originally got?

05-22-2007, 10:55 PM	#69 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	Im baffled, because there is a current member of the beams community who has a turboed Beams (The guy in Ireland, with the Celica). I talked to him the other night, and he stated that his manifold, was cast, not steel/tubular. This is why Im baffled with the whole thing, and have asked this question many times. Hopefully, I can get some pics from him, and figure it out from there.

06-09-2007, 05:47 AM	#70 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Manifold is finally polished and just finished fitting it today! The difference is very nice. Its more responsive then before and it has a little rexy sound too! Ill get some pics up shortly!

06-09-2007, 04:38 PM	#71 (permalink)
nikk1877 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 103 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	we need sound clips!!!!!! we DEMAND sound clips!

06-10-2007, 12:36 AM	#72 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Haha yeah ill get some sound clips ASAP!! Fow now enjoy some photos: ENJOY!!!

06-12-2007, 05:18 AM	#73 (permalink)
nikk1877 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 103 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	it looks amazing WFX - i really need to get one soon + the rest of the Phoenix's system. Hoping that will get me upto 160-165whp after I sort out my other issues.

06-12-2007, 11:39 AM	#74 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	I'm having a header and bpipe combo made right now. It will be compatible with off the shelf obx bpipes. The guy who makes it will be offering more for sale once we get the kinks worked out. The price should be around $300-$400. Pretty good considering it will cost you $200+ just to get a custom bpipe made at a typical muffler shop. Also a very nice option for people who are running the caldina motor and want to get rid of the manifold/cat combo. Hopefully i'll have some pics of it in the next week or two.

06-13-2007, 10:23 PM	#75 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	i vote WFX as most BEAMS-Bling on this board, geek.

06-13-2007, 10:49 PM	#76 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	^ 2nd

06-14-2007, 12:07 AM	#77 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	hey WFX that koyo looks slick eh? you and your double fans tho, i hate you now /me just has one measly flex-a-lite rad-fan....

06-14-2007, 10:44 AM	#78 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Hey the BEAMS deserved to be blinged alight! Puretone the double fan was a b!tch to mount thou ay haha only just got clearence with the new manifold but damn this puppy cools very well, runs atleast 10 degrees cooler now and the fans have that feature where they still cool even after turning the car off sort of like a turbo timer for turbos. I think the new Hondas have this feature too! I took some footage/audio tonight in the car from my mobile so Ill see whats worth putting up and show yas all!

06-14-2007, 01:31 PM	#79 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Ive uploaded some footage but its a little dodgy as I used my camera phone but atleast it gies you a little idea: WaynO's 3SGE BEAMS Road Test ENJOY!!

06-15-2007, 09:39 AM	#80 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 946 Thanks: 23 Thanked 56 Times in 36 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Aaah long time no post/forum browsing (Damn real life stuff going on! shakes fist) Okay today I pulled all of the heat wrap off my exhaust manifold, which is/was alledgedly a TOMS manifold. Well it's definitely not the standard manifold, OR the pheonix power one! The pipes are made from welded segments of pipe, and the first stub sections coming off the flange are all straight, and then bend into curves etc onwards from there. The weld positions are different to pheonix power ones. I'll snap some pics tomorrow. So there's definitely another aftermarket manifold option, I wonder if it really is a TOMS one, or something else again?