VVTi Soloid

WFX · 04-21-2007, 03:26 AM

Does anyone know anything about the VVTi Soloid? It has the plug attached to it which runs back to the ECU but my issue I have found is perhaps the soloid itself. It makes a loud wirling noise while the car is running is this normal? Is there anyway of telling if it is working properly? And can you buy new ones if need be?

da_horse · 04-22-2007, 03:28 AM

yup

Valve Assy, Camshaft Timing Oil Control : 15330-74020

puretone · 04-23-2007, 11:30 PM

oy so WFX, i traced those 2 vacuum lines on the underside of the throttle body and yes you do need to run them to the intake or block them off.
instant normal idle @ 850rpm after warm up, no matter what intake i end up using....or radiator fan action....

AND DUDE! if your VVTi solenoid is/was messed up than i would like to formally welcome you ahead of time when you install the new on and notice the power surge i have been tellin ya 'bout

WFX · 04-24-2007, 04:40 AM

Dude can you pinpoint these 2 vacuum lines out for me with a picture? I cant see anything there that hasnt been run somewhere, cheers!

Yeah not sure if the VVTi is buggared but it makes loud noises whirling noises, especially on a cold start. I could be just fussing over nothing!

da_horse · 04-24-2007, 08:33 AM

how large are these vacuum lines. on mine, there are two lines that are directly underneath, they're for the ISCV, so one goes from the water line in, and then one out.

there is one vacuum line on top left, which goes to the VSV for the charcoal canister purge and then there is one that goes to the fuel rail thing.

on the intake accordion pipe there is one hose which comes off the valve cover (PCV IIRC) and thats it. none on the air box either.

puretone · 04-24-2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WFX

Dude can you pinpoint these 2 vacuum lines out for me with a picture? I cant see anything there that hasnt been run somewhere, cheers!

Yeah not sure if the VVTi is buggared but it makes loud noises whirling noises, especially on a cold start. I could be just fussing over nothing!

http://www.mr2board.com/forums/17395...MR2-post3.html

from http://www.mr2board.com/forums/beams...ics-beams.html

WFX · 04-26-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_horse

how large are these vacuum lines. on mine, there are two lines that are directly underneath, they're for the ISCV, so one goes from the water line in, and then one out.

there is one vacuum line on top left, which goes to the VSV for the charcoal canister purge and then there is one that goes to the fuel rail thing.

on the intake accordion pipe there is one hose which comes off the valve cover (PCV IIRC) and thats it. none on the air box either.

I'm with him I cant spot any other pipes that arnt connected or already going somewhere. I take a snap of mine and see if you can pinpoint where these are like that MR2 has in the picture!

puretone · 04-26-2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr220v

Both of those hoses run to connections on the bottom of the throttlebody. Check the bottom of yours, you will find two open pipes. Take a look at the beams parts list:

http://www.beams-redtop.com/Parts_List.htm

Drag down to the picture of the throttlebody, and you'll see the two pipes

I don't have the evap purge valve hooked up. I do have the plug for it though and its not something I left out of the harness. I might hook it up later, but its not too critical.

da_horse · 04-26-2007, 01:13 PM

those two hoses are part of the ISCV. they're not vacuum lines, but water lines

puretone · 04-26-2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_horse

those two hoses are part of the ISCV. they're not vacuum lines, but water lines

yeah okay but then why do they run to the intake on mr220v's unit and his runs good?

da_horse · 04-26-2007, 01:26 PM

that, i have NFI.... he might be in a climate that's warm enough and hence hasnt caused him any idle issues, but most vehicles have a ISC (Idle Speed Control Valve), and are always plumbed with water, not vacuum.

i'd like to see a shot of his throttle body, in a similar fashion to your pic before i can make a better conclusion, tis very weird nonetheless.

mr220v · 04-26-2007, 02:20 PM

It gets pretty cold here in Atlanta, compared to most of Australia. I think the coldest its been since I got it running was 17degrees F, so the idle control system is working

The idle air control system on the beams operates by opening and closing an air bypass valve. The valve is open during cold operation, and closed during warm operation.

This valve is not linked to the cooling system in any way. Hooking up a coolant line would probably give the air intake stream a nice shot of antifreeze.

There are some older systems where the opening and closing was controlled by an expansion valve that was partially in the coolant flow.

Also, the 2nd and 3rd gen 3sge's had an annoying feature where warm coolant was allowed to circulate around the throttlebody, I guess to keep intake temps constant. The beams doesn't have this.

da_horse · 04-26-2007, 06:54 PM

If that's the case, then why does mine connect up to the water lines? one of them connects up to the water bypass pipe, the other connects to the water outlet.

Even in the epc, those two pipes are defined Hose, Water By-Pass No.1 (16264-88560) and Hose, Water By-Pass No.2 (16267-88560).

what you say seems feasible, but all the signs point the other way.

mr220v · 04-27-2007, 12:57 PM

Hmmm....

Looks like that throttle warming feature is in the beams 3sge too. I thought it was deleted for the beams.

I'll probably try hooking it up your way this weekend. Right now I have it bypassed.

midnite · 09-29-2008, 04:05 AM

my idle is very high so right now i am looking to see if my idle valve is working properly. Can't seem to get it below 950rpm. It always hovering above 950-1200rpm. It run fine just idle is high... No code throw at all and my temp sensor is out of wack I guess this will cause the high idle and wont start when hot????

MANDALAY · 09-29-2008, 05:05 AM

Just out of curiosity have you tried to undo the screw on the throttle cable on the Throttle Body ? Do your revs come down ?
Not starting when hot , well i dont know but a code should be there if that be the case.

MANDALAY · 09-29-2008, 05:09 AM

Sensor sent

midnite · 09-29-2008, 03:11 PM

it come down to 950 or 1000 hahaha. The screw is adjusted all the way but still high. I am using the SARD KIT that might contribute to the problem.... For some reason I can't seem to find a v6 camry air box here. It like no one part that car too reliable or something.

MANDALAY · 09-29-2008, 04:41 PM

If i adjust the screw too much i will stall the engine. Maybe your throttle valve dirty and unable to fully close ? 900 rpm is ok by the way. If i try to adjust 700 - 800 bit unstable.

midnite · 09-29-2008, 05:52 PM

My throtle is clean as hell because I clean prior putting the engine in. Anyway let see if this sensor help the problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

If i adjust the screw too much i will stall the engine. Maybe your throttle valve dirty and unable to fully close ? 900 rpm is ok by the way. If i try to adjust 700 - 800 bit unstable.

04-21-2007, 03:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	VVTi Soloid Does anyone know anything about the VVTi Soloid? It has the plug attached to it which runs back to the ECU but my issue I have found is perhaps the soloid itself. It makes a loud wirling noise while the car is running is this normal? Is there anyway of telling if it is working properly? And can you buy new ones if need be?

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04-22-2007, 03:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
da_horse Beams Owners Group Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 162 Thanks: 15 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yup Valve Assy, Camshaft Timing Oil Control : 15330-74020

04-23-2007, 11:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	oy so WFX, i traced those 2 vacuum lines on the underside of the throttle body and yes you do need to run them to the intake or block them off. instant normal idle @ 850rpm after warm up, no matter what intake i end up using....or radiator fan action.... AND DUDE! if your VVTi solenoid is/was messed up than i would like to formally welcome you ahead of time when you install the new on and notice the power surge i have been tellin ya 'bout

04-24-2007, 04:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Dude can you pinpoint these 2 vacuum lines out for me with a picture? I cant see anything there that hasnt been run somewhere, cheers! Yeah not sure if the VVTi is buggared but it makes loud noises whirling noises, especially on a cold start. I could be just fussing over nothing!

04-24-2007, 08:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
da_horse Beams Owners Group Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 162 Thanks: 15 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	how large are these vacuum lines. on mine, there are two lines that are directly underneath, they're for the ISCV, so one goes from the water line in, and then one out. there is one vacuum line on top left, which goes to the VSV for the charcoal canister purge and then there is one that goes to the fuel rail thing. on the intake accordion pipe there is one hose which comes off the valve cover (PCV IIRC) and thats it. none on the air box either.

04-26-2007, 01:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
da_horse Beams Owners Group Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 162 Thanks: 15 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	those two hoses are part of the ISCV. they're not vacuum lines, but water lines

04-26-2007, 01:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
da_horse Beams Owners Group Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 162 Thanks: 15 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	that, i have NFI.... he might be in a climate that's warm enough and hence hasnt caused him any idle issues, but most vehicles have a ISC (Idle Speed Control Valve), and are always plumbed with water, not vacuum. i'd like to see a shot of his throttle body, in a similar fashion to your pic before i can make a better conclusion, tis very weird nonetheless.

04-26-2007, 02:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	It gets pretty cold here in Atlanta, compared to most of Australia. I think the coldest its been since I got it running was 17degrees F, so the idle control system is working The idle air control system on the beams operates by opening and closing an air bypass valve. The valve is open during cold operation, and closed during warm operation. This valve is not linked to the cooling system in any way. Hooking up a coolant line would probably give the air intake stream a nice shot of antifreeze. There are some older systems where the opening and closing was controlled by an expansion valve that was partially in the coolant flow. Also, the 2nd and 3rd gen 3sge's had an annoying feature where warm coolant was allowed to circulate around the throttlebody, I guess to keep intake temps constant. The beams doesn't have this.

04-26-2007, 06:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
da_horse Beams Owners Group Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 162 Thanks: 15 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	If that's the case, then why does mine connect up to the water lines? one of them connects up to the water bypass pipe, the other connects to the water outlet. Even in the epc, those two pipes are defined Hose, Water By-Pass No.1 (16264-88560) and Hose, Water By-Pass No.2 (16267-88560). what you say seems feasible, but all the signs point the other way.

04-27-2007, 12:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	Hmmm.... Looks like that throttle warming feature is in the beams 3sge too. I thought it was deleted for the beams. I'll probably try hooking it up your way this weekend. Right now I have it bypassed.

09-29-2008, 04:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
midnite Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 131 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	my idle is very high so right now i am looking to see if my idle valve is working properly. Can't seem to get it below 950rpm. It always hovering above 950-1200rpm. It run fine just idle is high... No code throw at all and my temp sensor is out of wack I guess this will cause the high idle and wont start when hot????

09-29-2008, 05:05 AM	#16 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,209 Thanks: 136 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Just out of curiosity have you tried to undo the screw on the throttle cable on the Throttle Body ? Do your revs come down ? Not starting when hot , well i dont know but a code should be there if that be the case.

09-29-2008, 05:09 AM	#17 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,209 Thanks: 136 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Sensor sent

09-29-2008, 03:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
midnite Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 131 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	it come down to 950 or 1000 hahaha. The screw is adjusted all the way but still high. I am using the SARD KIT that might contribute to the problem.... For some reason I can't seem to find a v6 camry air box here. It like no one part that car too reliable or something.

09-29-2008, 04:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,209 Thanks: 136 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	If i adjust the screw too much i will stall the engine. Maybe your throttle valve dirty and unable to fully close ? 900 rpm is ok by the way. If i try to adjust 700 - 800 bit unstable.