What does BEAMS stand for?

mthreat · 05-11-2007, 11:27 PM

Sorry for the dumb question.. I tried searching for 'beams' but there are tons of posts, but I didn't see any answering my n00b question,

What does BEAMS stand for? thanks

PHOENIX · 05-11-2007, 11:37 PM

OMG, i have no idea.........good question

Ncturnal · 05-12-2007, 12:42 AM

Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System

rgraciano · 05-12-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ncturnal

Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System

you rule

PHOENIX · 05-12-2007, 12:55 AM

crap, i think i knew that.

its on the site

rgraciano · 05-12-2007, 12:58 AM

well i didn't know, obviously what do i know? lol

mthreat · 05-12-2007, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ncturnal

Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System

Ah thanks! I should have done a google search... I found this on wikipedia:

Toyota 3S-GE engine

I noticed your black '95 N/A on the board -- does it have the BEAMS engine? What kind of horsepower do those usually output at the wheels?

PHOENIX · 05-12-2007, 01:49 AM

check this site out....

www.beams-redtop.com

mthreat · 05-12-2007, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

check this site out....

www.beams-redtop.com

Thanks... I just read up on the toyota engines a bit. So if I decide to get an N/A MR2, what is the best year/engine to get? By best, I mean most hp/torque, and reliability. It looks like they switched to the 5S-FE later, which had less power than the 3S-GE?

Marco69 · 05-12-2007, 02:01 AM

The US version of the MR2 NA only came with the 5SFE - anything else (3SGE any gen, including BEAMS) will need to be sourced from importers and swapped.

PHOENIX · 05-12-2007, 02:11 AM

the 93+ 5SFE's had 5 more hp than the 91-92's. 3s-ge's were only offered in japan and the uk.

now if your wanting power in the 5sfe engine, you won't get much. you could spend $1000 bucks on that engine and only gain 15hp

puretone · 05-12-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mthreat

Sorry for the dumb question.. I tried searching for 'beams' but there are tons of posts, but I didn't see any answering my n00b question,

What does BEAMS stand for? thanks

WELCOME NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!`

davagogo · 05-13-2007, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ncturnal

Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System

now what exactly is the breakthrough? It,s VVt-I. Now what does that stand for?

Davis · 05-13-2007, 01:07 AM

^ Stands for Variable Valve Timing Intelligence i believe?

PHOENIX · 05-13-2007, 07:27 AM

Davis, you are correct.

MANDALAY · 05-13-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

the 93+ 5SFE's had 5 more hp than the 91-92's. 3s-ge's were only offered in japan and the uk.

now if your wanting power in the 5sfe engine, you won't get much. you could spend $1000 bucks on that engine and only gain 15hp

And Australia

puretone · 05-13-2007, 08:41 PM

non VVTi 3S-GE was sold in Europe as well, South America too....possibly other places....

i think the Advanced Mechanism bit is the actual device that advances the timing....i suppose the VVTL-i is as well, just an educated guess bc Toyota has a totally different way of going about their valve lift as compared to Honda....

which other manufacturer does extra valve lift? you guys know? and how it works?

Edophus · 05-14-2007, 06:39 PM

Mitsubishi have Mivec and Nissan have NEO VVL, I think its something like that, they all acheive something similar whilst differing slightly in method.

Roman · 05-17-2007, 10:13 PM

There's two main ways of going about it.

one is simply rolling the cam over so it opens and shuts at different times, (like VVTI)

and one is having two seperate cam profiles, which switch over at a set RPM. (like VTEC, VVTLI)

Modern systems like i-VTEC and VVTLI do both.

MuMan · 07-17-2007, 02:04 AM

Beams?..must have taken a wrong turn!
Ok, so while I'm here..what's a Beams got to offer over a 3SGTE..
Maybe it was carma that got me here

05-11-2007, 11:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
mthreat Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 269 Thanks: 28 Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	What does BEAMS stand for? Sorry for the dumb question.. I tried searching for 'beams' but there are tons of posts, but I didn't see any answering my n00b question, What does BEAMS stand for? thanks

05-12-2007, 12:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
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05-11-2007, 11:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	OMG, i have no idea.........good question

05-12-2007, 12:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
rgraciano Some Skills Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 71 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	well i didn't know, obviously what do i know? lol

05-12-2007, 01:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	check this site out.... www.beams-redtop.com

05-12-2007, 02:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
Marco69 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 41 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The US version of the MR2 NA only came with the 5SFE - anything else (3SGE any gen, including BEAMS) will need to be sourced from importers and swapped.

05-12-2007, 02:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	the 93+ 5SFE's had 5 more hp than the 91-92's. 3s-ge's were only offered in japan and the uk. now if your wanting power in the 5sfe engine, you won't get much. you could spend $1000 bucks on that engine and only gain 15hp

05-13-2007, 01:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
Davis Radical Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 4,536 Thanks: 85 Thanked 125 Times in 113 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	^ Stands for Variable Valve Timing Intelligence i believe?

05-13-2007, 07:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	Davis, you are correct.

05-13-2007, 08:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	non VVTi 3S-GE was sold in Europe as well, South America too....possibly other places.... i think the Advanced Mechanism bit is the actual device that advances the timing....i suppose the VVTL-i is as well, just an educated guess bc Toyota has a totally different way of going about their valve lift as compared to Honda.... which other manufacturer does extra valve lift? you guys know? and how it works?

05-14-2007, 06:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
Edophus Beams Owners Group Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 370 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Mitsubishi have Mivec and Nissan have NEO VVL, I think its something like that, they all acheive something similar whilst differing slightly in method.

05-17-2007, 10:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 946 Thanks: 23 Thanked 56 Times in 36 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	There's two main ways of going about it. one is simply rolling the cam over so it opens and shuts at different times, (like VVTI) and one is having two seperate cam profiles, which switch over at a set RPM. (like VTEC, VVTLI) Modern systems like i-VTEC and VVTLI do both.

07-17-2007, 02:04 AM	#20 (permalink)
MuMan Nothing is forever.. Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 348 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Beams?..must have taken a wrong turn! Ok, so while I'm here..what's a Beams got to offer over a 3SGTE.. Maybe it was carma that got me here