RED TOP MANUAL

MANDALAY · 04-14-2008, 01:44 AM

Before starting my project l found it necessary to locate a RED TOP MANUAL.
This was a concern to me as we were going to put about 1000 peices together. After extensive searching bribing and begging , with good contacts l was able to get one a hard copy. It was in TOYOTA archieve but alas the only one left.
Now the good news through my contacts i can get CD versions of the manual and also other versions of the MR2 series. 91 -98 on the one CD . They include all engine specifications , torque figures and lay out.
These ARE NOT COPIES they are originals, EVEN though it looks likw Toyota just scanned the pages. I will advertise in the for sale forum close to $100 each freight included to anywhere in the world. What i need to know is how many to get roughly and given the number pricing will be reduced. l will however give a free copy to anyone who can put a scanned pdf file into a word format so that one of the many programs available can be used to translate.

PHOENIX · 04-14-2008, 02:16 AM

Awesome work!

MANDALAY · 04-14-2008, 03:34 AM

Thanks bubby, Yeh i really want to find out how many copies to get as this is once and only chance to get them. Gee those Japs love our red wine ! and good one . Cost me 2 bottles of Henshke red " hills of grace ". There about $350 each !
The CD cant be copied for anyone thinking why l dont do that and honestly l wouldnt do it but l will help anyone where l can

puretone · 04-14-2008, 11:04 AM

5 mins with that CD and i will be able to copy that

Hmmm if only there was a ST202 SS3/RedTop one....

juergeng6 · 04-14-2008, 11:07 AM

Hallo!

Is there on the cd the complete wiring diagram,too?

Greeting Jürgen

MANDALAY · 04-14-2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puretone

5 mins with that CD and i will be able to copy that

Hmmm if only there was a ST202 SS3/RedTop one....

That comment scares me. I have spent so much money and time trying get as much info on the Beams to help the community. 5 CD's have roughly cost me $1,200 . Countless number of calls bottles of wine couriering and to ship.
So even though ( i would never copy ) l should give out a CD which no-one has ever been able to get so it can copied for free and totally abortioned on ebay ? Looks like l might have swallow the loss and not give out the CD's
But if anyone needs help l will answer all questions.
Whats sad really is that l also got the ST202 SS3 MANUAL which has the limited edition of the BEAMS.

PHOENIX · 04-14-2008, 07:09 PM

yeah, honestly. I could copy the CD too. In the wrong hands, that CD will end up on Ebay within a month selling for $3 bucks.

$1200 bucks for 5 CD's ouch

pasqual · 04-14-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

Whats sad really is that l also got the ST202 SS3 MANUAL which has the limited edition of the BEAMS.

Can You tell more about this limited edition in st202 SS3 ????

MANDALAY · 04-14-2008, 08:56 PM

Sorry guys offer on manual withdrawn, in light of the situation

puretone · 04-14-2008, 09:46 PM

LOL dude chill, I for one would not hawk it on eBay, I'd just make some of us beg on knees & demand some fan-pics of our BEAMS-members sprawled out over our even sessier RedTops....or something ridiculous like that

try cloneCD, x-copy or something, it should let you....

i would def pay 300-ish $ for a CD that will add to my BEAMS craze tho...that is IF its ST202 BEAMS...

juergeng6 · 04-15-2008, 03:33 PM

Hallo!

I need more help with the wiring diagram of the beams red top.

Greeting Jürgen

RST · 04-15-2008, 04:03 PM

Mate, I'm afraid most computer literate folk I know would be able to rip it off in a few minutes as well. I don't know how but apparently it's not hard. Personally I'd pay the cash for the CD and point anyone else who wants one in the right direction, I don't believe in rip-offs if someone's gone to the hassle. I can guess the situation you're in.

Richard

PHOENIX · 04-15-2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juergeng6

Hallo!

I need more help with the wiring diagram of the beams red top.

Greeting Jürgen

check this thread out, the answers you need are in it.

http://www.mr2.com/forums/beams/Toyo...-compiled.html

MANDALAY · 04-16-2008, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RST

Mate, I'm afraid most computer literate folk I know would be able to rip it off in a few minutes as well. I don't know how but apparently it's not hard. Personally I'd pay the cash for the CD and point anyone else who wants one in the right direction, I don't believe in rip-offs if someone's gone to the hassle. I can guess the situation you're in.

Richard

Hi Richard . Do Rogue have the beams manual ?

Edophus · 04-18-2008, 04:34 PM

why dont you put together a list of those who want the original discs, get all the payments in, and then once you have that, send them out once you have those payments, those who are willing to pay get the nice originals, you get some of your investment back, and well you just cant stop those who want to sell copies. I'm really not sure there is much of a market for it though.

that way, everyone gets something out of this situation.

MANDALAY · 04-20-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edophus

why dont you put together a list of those who want the original discs, get all the payments in, and then once you have that, send them out once you have those payments, those who are willing to pay get the nice originals, you get some of your investment back, and well you just cant stop those who want to sell copies. I'm really not sure there is much of a market for it though.

that way, everyone gets something out of this situation.

This is true. Im just a bit naive about the whole computer copying thing.
Saw that there was a few people wanting to convert the grey tops to the RED TOPs and a manual would be benefitial especially for a rebuild. Also the countless other things that are on the repair manual. Window of opportunity has come and gone unfortunately. For so long people were asking where to get a manual. Oh well its ok. Sold the manuals to workshops which had no hesitation to buy them given that they have never seen them especially the Celica one given that car is more prvelent here.

Edophus · 04-21-2008, 04:59 AM

can you tell us anything about the special edition beams in the st202?, I noticed a while back there is two different sets of pistons in the toyota epc for the st202 redtop, i wondered if it was a revision but maybe this would explain it?

PHOENIX · 04-21-2008, 09:17 PM

1 is probably a overhaul piston set at .5 over stock.

MANDALAY · 06-10-2008, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puretone

LOL dude chill, I for one would not hawk it on eBay, I'd just make some of us beg on knees & demand some fan-pics of our BEAMS-members sprawled out over our even sessier RedTops....or something ridiculous like that

try cloneCD, x-copy or something, it should let you....

i would def pay 300-ish $ for a CD that will add to my BEAMS craze tho...that is IF its ST202 BEAMS...

Ok puretone,
TIME TO START TO BEG.
I have the whole celica file 92 - 98 including the RED TOP option and everything else in my hot little hand.

Workshop, extras, etc. What is it worth do you reckon ? ( little devil sign goes here )
I looked over it just breifily at work and gee its pretty useful when having the MR2 one by its side as seeing where the differences are., engine wiring etc.

PHOENIX · 06-10-2008, 02:37 AM

I'd probably ask for slave rights to puretones first born son if you were to let his hand on one of those CD's

04-14-2008, 01:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 2,530 Thanks: 92 Thanked 84 Times in 80 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	RED TOP MANUAL Before starting my project l found it necessary to locate a RED TOP MANUAL. This was a concern to me as we were going to put about 1000 peices together. After extensive searching bribing and begging , with good contacts l was able to get one a hard copy. It was in TOYOTA archieve but alas the only one left. Now the good news through my contacts i can get CD versions of the manual and also other versions of the MR2 series. 91 -98 on the one CD . They include all engine specifications , torque figures and lay out. These ARE NOT COPIES they are originals, EVEN though it looks likw Toyota just scanned the pages. I will advertise in the for sale forum close to $100 each freight included to anywhere in the world. What i need to know is how many to get roughly and given the number pricing will be reduced. l will however give a free copy to anyone who can put a scanned pdf file into a word format so that one of the many programs available can be used to translate.

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04-14-2008, 02:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 8,759 Thanks: 91 Thanked 285 Times in 219 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (47/100% )	Awesome work!

04-14-2008, 03:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 2,530 Thanks: 92 Thanked 84 Times in 80 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Thanks bubby, Yeh i really want to find out how many copies to get as this is once and only chance to get them. Gee those Japs love our red wine ! and good one . Cost me 2 bottles of Henshke red " hills of grace ". There about $350 each ! The CD cant be copied for anyone thinking why l dont do that and honestly l wouldnt do it but l will help anyone where l can

04-14-2008, 11:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 1,645 Thanks: 24 Thanked 49 Times in 48 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	5 mins with that CD and i will be able to copy that Hmmm if only there was a ST202 SS3/RedTop one....

04-14-2008, 11:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
juergeng6 No Skills Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Hallo! Is there on the cd the complete wiring diagram,too? Greeting Jürgen

04-14-2008, 07:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 8,759 Thanks: 91 Thanked 285 Times in 219 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (47/100% )	yeah, honestly. I could copy the CD too. In the wrong hands, that CD will end up on Ebay within a month selling for $3 bucks. $1200 bucks for 5 CD's ouch

04-14-2008, 08:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 2,530 Thanks: 92 Thanked 84 Times in 80 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Sorry guys offer on manual withdrawn, in light of the situation

04-14-2008, 09:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 1,645 Thanks: 24 Thanked 49 Times in 48 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	LOL dude chill, I for one would not hawk it on eBay, I'd just make some of us beg on knees & demand some fan-pics of our BEAMS-members sprawled out over our even sessier RedTops....or something ridiculous like that try cloneCD, x-copy or something, it should let you.... i would def pay 300-ish $ for a CD that will add to my BEAMS craze tho...that is IF its ST202 BEAMS...

04-15-2008, 03:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
juergeng6 No Skills Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Hallo! I need more help with the wiring diagram of the beams red top. Greeting Jürgen

04-15-2008, 04:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
RST Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2007 Location: Inverness, Scotland Posts: 444 Thanks: 8 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Mate, I'm afraid most computer literate folk I know would be able to rip it off in a few minutes as well. I don't know how but apparently it's not hard. Personally I'd pay the cash for the CD and point anyone else who wants one in the right direction, I don't believe in rip-offs if someone's gone to the hassle. I can guess the situation you're in. *Richard*

04-18-2008, 04:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
Edophus Beams Owners Group Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353 Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	why dont you put together a list of those who want the original discs, get all the payments in, and then once you have that, send them out once you have those payments, those who are willing to pay get the nice originals, you get some of your investment back, and well you just cant stop those who want to sell copies. I'm really not sure there is much of a market for it though. that way, everyone gets something out of this situation.

04-21-2008, 04:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
Edophus Beams Owners Group Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353 Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	can you tell us anything about the special edition beams in the st202?, I noticed a while back there is two different sets of pistons in the toyota epc for the st202 redtop, i wondered if it was a revision but maybe this would explain it?

04-21-2008, 09:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 8,759 Thanks: 91 Thanked 285 Times in 219 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (47/100% )	1 is probably a overhaul piston set at .5 over stock.

06-10-2008, 02:37 AM	#20 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 8,759 Thanks: 91 Thanked 285 Times in 219 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (47/100% )	I'd probably ask for slave rights to puretones first born son if you were to let his hand on one of those CD's