Now it's time for internals questions

mr2mkii · 09-04-2008, 05:53 PM

We now know that some 3sgte parts fit and some don't

new questions added to the others I already asked... here is a resume of what I know now

1) Beams fuel rail should be good for 750cc
2) 3sgte rods can be used with BEAMS low comp pistons (Glenn)
3) 3sgte pistons CAN NOT be used
4) Beams OEM headgasket is a multi-layer and should be good enough for a turbo setup with a straight head and block
5) 3sgte exhaust manifold are not plug-n-play but bewtween the 2nd gen and 3rd gen one can fit with minor mods on one of the 4 runners
6) 3sgte ARP main studs are useable on the 3sge Beams
7) 3sgte ARP flywheel Bolts are useable on the 3sge Beams (not the one from the 5sfe however)
8) 3sgte 3rd and 4th gen Lower oil Pan (the small one) Are useable on the 3sge Beams

NOW:

1) ARP head studs from the 3sgte?? Can we use them on our 3sge Beams engine?

2) What about Rods Bearings? Are the one from the 3sgte usable on our 3sge Beams? If so which one is the best to handle lot of power?

that's it for now, next question soon

Gabriel

Celica RA45 · 09-05-2008, 01:22 AM

ok arp head studs will fit and wont fit. old stock with 11mm nut will 12mm nut set up wont fit not enough room to tighten down .on the block side the arp main set will work as i have used them

psuPbikeRider88 · 10-01-2008, 02:58 PM

where is a good place (online) to buy OEM internals for a beams redtop? I'm specifically looking for valvetrain parts (springs, lifters, cams, valves). thanks.

MANDALAY · 10-01-2008, 03:59 PM

OEM Toyota or Ebay site in China . Fantastic service but most of the secind hand parts are dearer than brand new parts from Toyota. Go figure !

psuPbikeRider88 · 10-01-2008, 04:57 PM

when you say OEM toyota... does toyota have thier own parts website?

MANDALAY · 10-01-2008, 11:22 PM

Nah OEM second hand parts from RPM GARAGE " RARE PARTS WILL NEVER SEE"" Keith "

New oem from your local Toyota dealership

PHOENIX · 10-06-2008, 05:56 AM

yeah, your not going to find really any internal parts for the Beams motor. If you want cams and springs, talk to celica_ra45 here on the board.

the1 · 10-15-2008, 03:18 PM

I am still not really good with the beams.
But you sure Toda some parts of the beams, or? They run the parts under 3SG.
And TRD has Camshaft 280 ° with VVT-i function.

PHOENIX · 10-17-2008, 05:18 AM

TRD and Toda camshafts are for the sxe10 dual vvt-i 3SGE and will not fit on the redtop or greytop motors.

Rumor has it the pistons and rods will work fine in the redtop and greytop.

Servin · 10-17-2008, 06:24 PM

Im might be wrong but Im sure that Glenn uses the Blacktop BEAMS cams and just does re-grinds on them for the Redtop. Im really surprising how much stuff we can use from the Blacktop.

PHOENIX · 01-28-2009, 04:44 AM

Anyone have any idea what the part number or where I can purchase the "older" ARP head studs?

puretone · 01-28-2009, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

Anyone have any idea what the part number or where I can purchase the "older" ARP head studs?

as far as buying "older" ARP studs, pepboys. Laugh now, but be grateful when they come up with them. Partnumber.....Glenn?

09-04-2008, 05:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
mr2mkii Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Laval, Qc, Canada Posts: 516 Thanks: 9 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Now it's time for internals questions We now know that some 3sgte parts fit and some don't new questions added to the others I already asked... here is a resume of what I know now 1) Beams fuel rail should be good for 750cc 2) 3sgte rods can be used with BEAMS low comp pistons (Glenn) 3) 3sgte pistons CAN NOT be used 4) Beams OEM headgasket is a multi-layer and should be good enough for a turbo setup with a straight head and block 5) 3sgte exhaust manifold are not plug-n-play but bewtween the 2nd gen and 3rd gen one can fit with minor mods on one of the 4 runners 6) 3sgte ARP main studs are useable on the 3sge Beams 7) 3sgte ARP flywheel Bolts are useable on the 3sge Beams (not the one from the 5sfe however) 8) 3sgte 3rd and 4th gen Lower oil Pan (the small one) Are useable on the 3sge Beams NOW: 1) ARP head studs from the 3sgte?? Can we use them on our 3sge Beams engine? 2) What about Rods Bearings? Are the one from the 3sgte usable on our 3sge Beams? If so which one is the best to handle lot of power? that's it for now, next question soon Gabriel Last edited by mr2mkii; 01-31-2009 at 11:04 AM..

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09-05-2008, 01:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ok arp head studs will fit and wont fit. old stock with 11mm nut will 12mm nut set up wont fit not enough room to tighten down .on the block side the arp main set will work as i have used them

10-01-2008, 02:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
psuPbikeRider88 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northeast PA Posts: 172 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	where is a good place (online) to buy OEM internals for a beams redtop? I'm specifically looking for valvetrain parts (springs, lifters, cams, valves). thanks.

10-01-2008, 03:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,210 Thanks: 136 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	OEM Toyota or Ebay site in China . Fantastic service but most of the secind hand parts are dearer than brand new parts from Toyota. Go figure !

10-01-2008, 04:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
psuPbikeRider88 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northeast PA Posts: 172 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	when you say OEM toyota... does toyota have thier own parts website?

10-01-2008, 11:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,210 Thanks: 136 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Nah OEM second hand parts from RPM GARAGE " RARE PARTS WILL NEVER SEE"" Keith " New oem from your local Toyota dealership

10-06-2008, 05:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	yeah, your not going to find really any internal parts for the Beams motor. If you want cams and springs, talk to celica_ra45 here on the board.

10-15-2008, 03:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
the1 No Skills Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Austria Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I am still not really good with the beams. But you sure Toda some parts of the beams, or? They run the parts under 3SG. And TRD has Camshaft 280 ° with VVT-i function.

10-17-2008, 05:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	TRD and Toda camshafts are for the sxe10 dual vvt-i 3SGE and will not fit on the redtop or greytop motors. Rumor has it the pistons and rods will work fine in the redtop and greytop.

10-17-2008, 06:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
Servin Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 13 Thanked 54 Times in 42 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Im might be wrong but Im sure that Glenn uses the Blacktop BEAMS cams and just does re-grinds on them for the Redtop. Im really surprising how much stuff we can use from the Blacktop.

01-28-2009, 04:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	Anyone have any idea what the part number or where I can purchase the "older" ARP head studs?