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Old 01-27-2009, 01:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"valve lifter" diameter & some cam's related questions

Anyone know beams "valve lifter" diameter ???

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Old 01-27-2009, 02:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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fwd beams 31mm and altezza auto 31 mm altezza manual 33mm
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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BIG THX Glenn , I already checked this in my redtop 31mm , before I read Your answer , ,
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BIG THX Glenn , I already checked this in my redtop 31mm , before I read Your answer , ,

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1. another question

how much deg I can adjust on Intake "GEAR ASSY, CAMSHAFT TIMING" cam pulley

according red-top manual Intake cam-center-line is 85 ATDC (no-adv) ,

what is true default setting ???

2. Looking for "Adjusting CAM PULLEY " for exhaust cam on red-top ,

aftermarket Ex for Altezza (black-top) will fit ??

for exlample : TODA . or I should use standard 3s-ge rev3 adjusting pulley ??

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1. another question

how much deg I can adjust on Intake "GEAR ASSY, CAMSHAFT TIMING" cam pulley

according red-top manual Intake cam-center-line is 85 ATDC (no-adv) ,

what is true default setting ???

2. Looking for "Adjusting CAM PULLEY " for exhaust cam on red-top ,

aftermarket Ex for Altezza (black-top) will fit ??

for exlample : TODA . or I should use standard 3s-ge rev3 adjusting pulley ??
Unless you wanna kill VVTi, I would not mess with advancing/adjusting the cams as the VVTi already does this.....so why would you want to adjust either one?
I think Glenn might be the one to know stuff about this tho, not me
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Old 01-31-2009, 07:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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He's talking about for exhaust side only, where there isnt VVTI.

On the intake side, it doesnt matter where the actual cam is, so long as the belt is lined up properly with the camgear... as when the engine starts up, the pulley shifts the cam to where it wants it to be.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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pascal you will never get a black top exhaust cam to fit a red top no way unless you bolt a black top head onto your red top
but you can use a veraible cam pulley from a gen 3 motor if you like to adjust it ,
but why bother ,. if the cams are std
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thx Glenn ,

Ad2. I need confirmation that for exhaust cam I can use 3s-ge rev3 pulley

Ad1. On std VVTi controller there are bolts for adjust ,my question was about this ,

Why Im asking those questions , simple going to re-grinding standard red-top cams .
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ok so you are going to take lift away to regrind your cams and put bigger shims under so say 3.20 mm now and then up to 4.20 mm shims for what maybe only 5hp increase '
also do not play around with those bolts un less you know what you are doing
and as i said gen 3 pulleys are the same for the exhaust
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plan is :

In: 278 deg 11.2mm lift
Ex: 274 deg 10.4mm lift

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O.k. because I have a few questions:

Toda have only for the Blacktop aktiv VVTi
In: 268 deg 12mm lift
Ex: 264 deg 11mm lift

These are the values for the Camshaft.

By how many moves the dual VVTi the value?
Adjusts the dual VVTi valve inlet and outlet at the same time?

Edit: Can I read where?
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Toda have only for the Blacktop aktiv VVTi
In: 268 deg 12mm lift
Ex: 264 deg 11mm lift
You can use it for black-top and keep vvti ,
(and I think SA-ecu is needed ,for adjusting vvti)

for red-top even when You buy Toda intake-cam , You still need custom-exhaust-cam
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You can use it for black-top and keep vvti ,
(and I think SA-ecu is needed ,for adjusting vvti)

for red-top even when You buy Toda intake-cam , You still need custom-exhaust-cam
Thanks for your answer ... but that has nothing to do with my question
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By how many moves the dual VVTi the value?
Adjusts the dual VVTi valve inlet and outlet at the same time?

Edit: Can I read where?
how many moves vvti is depend to Your cams timing-setting (cam profile , center-line)

Toda saying only : duration and lift ,

You need to know opening/closing deg , center-line

Adjusting IN or EX or both IN/EX ???how much ??? For answer those questions You really need know details about those cam's , reading-profile (deg by deg ) or just figure out this on the dyno by some one with experience.
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how many moves vvti is depend to Your cams timing-setting (cam profile , center-line)

Toda saying only : duration and lift ,

You need to know opening/closing deg , center-line

Adjusting IN or EX or both IN/EX ???how much ??? For answer those questions You really need know details about those cam's , reading-profile (deg by deg ) or just figure out this on the dyno by some one with experience.
Thank you, yes, now we understand us .... yes, I was hoping there who can help me here

Where can I read this?
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Im not sure about that , but maybe TODA did those cams PnP , means replacing stock cams and stock-ecu can handle that on stock vvt-i setting .

or there is manual-how-to attached to TODA cams

Maybe just ask TODA
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