BEAMS question

Redfox · 02-05-2009, 05:28 PM

Ok frist off im looking to buy a new engine/transmission for my 91 mr2,I have my eye on this beams engine but the problem is it comes with a automatic transmission.if i put a manual transaxle on it will it work or only on specific automatic engine only??? don't flame me im new to engines lol

mr220v · 02-05-2009, 05:34 PM

There's no issue using the beams AT ecu with a manual transmission.

If you get an AT beams, you'll need to get a 3sg(t)e flywheel. Your 5sfe flywheel won't fit a 3sge.

Redfox · 02-05-2009, 05:38 PM

Thank you for the info.Do you know of any places where i can get a manual tranmission + 3sgt flywheel & is it hard to install a beams engine into a mr2 because this engine seems kinda simple in a way.

mr220v · 02-05-2009, 05:46 PM

The manual transmission beams comes with a newer s54. So you can just reuse your old transmission, or get one from another mr2.

You're looking for a 3sg(t)e flywheel, not a 3sfe flywheel.

A 3sgte flywheel can be purchased on this board cheap. If you go this route you'll use the 3sgte flywheel and pressureplate and then the 5sfe clutch disk and throwout bearing. The 3sgte PP is very stiff but grabs hard.

A 3sge flywheel is a little harder to find. They sell aftermarket ones on ebay, you can get them used from non usdm celicas, mr2's, and possibly late 80's celica gt's that came with the 1st gen 3sge. If you go this route, I would get an upgraded clutch set as the stock 5sfe/3sge clutch set is a little weak for the beams.

Installation is like reinstalling a 5sfe. It's the wiring that will get you.

pasqual · 02-06-2009, 12:42 AM

I replaced stock red-top M/T clutch (all: disk,plate,flywheel) to aftermarket one ,

so I have spare those parts if You interesting in (lm located in Europe)

and if You need , my friend have spare M/T s54 from 3s-ge rev3 (celica st202 EU ver) with drive-shafts

nugget · 02-06-2009, 12:47 AM

I just finished my swap and it was not hard.....The hardest thing is waiting on all the parts to come in....I used a lighten flywheel for the 3sgte and a OEM pp with a OEM spec clutch disk for the 5sfe...The clutch is stiff but it seems to hold well..I just used a stock tranny for the 5sfe that I got from a salvage yard ...Finding the throw out bearing was hard...I suggest just getting it from Toyota...All the ones that the parts stores got for me (3 total) were to small...The install was not hard at all...mr220v did my harness and he did a great job...If he is still doing them I suggest letting him do it...It was plug and play...very nice... All the people on the board are good about helping if you need help finding things...Good luck

puretone · 02-06-2009, 12:02 PM

FLAME FLAME FLAME

puretone · 02-06-2009, 12:06 PM

Which throw-out bearing did you end up using?

nugget · 02-06-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by puretone

Which throw-out bearing did you end up using?

I used the one from Toyota...part # 31230-32060...It looks like the ones that the parts store ordered but wider...The others didn't fit the release fork...

02-05-2009, 05:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Redfox Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 224 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	BEAMS question Ok frist off im looking to buy a new engine/transmission for my 91 mr2,I have my eye on this beams engine but the problem is it comes with a automatic transmission.if i put a manual transaxle on it will it work or only on specific automatic engine only??? don't flame me im new to engines lol

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02-05-2009, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	There's no issue using the beams AT ecu with a manual transmission. If you get an AT beams, you'll need to get a 3sg(t)e flywheel. Your 5sfe flywheel won't fit a 3sge.

02-05-2009, 05:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Redfox Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 224 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Thank you for the info.Do you know of any places where i can get a manual tranmission + 3sgt flywheel & is it hard to install a beams engine into a mr2 because this engine seems kinda simple in a way.

02-05-2009, 05:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	The manual transmission beams comes with a newer s54. So you can just reuse your old transmission, or get one from another mr2. You're looking for a 3sg(t)e flywheel, not a 3sfe flywheel. A 3sgte flywheel can be purchased on this board cheap. If you go this route you'll use the 3sgte flywheel and pressureplate and then the 5sfe clutch disk and throwout bearing. The 3sgte PP is very stiff but grabs hard. A 3sge flywheel is a little harder to find. They sell aftermarket ones on ebay, you can get them used from non usdm celicas, mr2's, and possibly late 80's celica gt's that came with the 1st gen 3sge. If you go this route, I would get an upgraded clutch set as the stock 5sfe/3sge clutch set is a little weak for the beams. Installation is like reinstalling a 5sfe. It's the wiring that will get you.

02-06-2009, 12:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
pasqual Beams Owners Group Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BRNO/CZ Posts: 152 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I replaced stock red-top M/T clutch (all: disk,plate,flywheel) to aftermarket one , so I have spare those parts if You interesting in (lm located in Europe) and if You need , my friend have spare M/T s54 from 3s-ge rev3 (celica st202 EU ver) with drive-shafts

02-06-2009, 12:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
nugget Beams Owners Group Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 109 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I just finished my swap and it was not hard.....The hardest thing is waiting on all the parts to come in....I used a lighten flywheel for the 3sgte and a OEM pp with a OEM spec clutch disk for the 5sfe...The clutch is stiff but it seems to hold well..I just used a stock tranny for the 5sfe that I got from a salvage yard ...Finding the throw out bearing was hard...I suggest just getting it from Toyota...All the ones that the parts stores got for me (3 total) were to small...The install was not hard at all...mr220v did my harness and he did a great job...If he is still doing them I suggest letting him do it...It was plug and play...very nice... All the people on the board are good about helping if you need help finding things...Good luck

02-06-2009, 12:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	FLAME FLAME FLAME

02-06-2009, 12:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Which throw-out bearing did you end up using?