SHORT BLOCK

[MANDALAY]

oops sorry guys, it should have been in this section

[MANDALAY]

Finally got my block back
Its been Torque plated down and machined and honed.
Its with the builder now and going through a test fit. Once ok its all systems go and start putting it all together
Ill post pictures as they happen

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Yes finally short block is together !
All measurements perfect. All measurements with OEM bearings are right in the middle . Fantastic . Compression ratio is 8.9 : 1
Argo rods no problems with OEM rod bearings
SPS pistons no problem . Valves clear pistons 100 %

[pasqual]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

Yes finally short block is together !
All measurements perfect. All measurements with OEM bearings are right in the middle . Fantastic . Compression ratio is 8.9 : 1
Argo rods no problems with OEM rod bearings
SPS pistons no problem . Valves clear pistons 100 %

what is the plan ,
stock cams ????
what about vvti , stock setting ? (45CA) ?

[MANDALAY]

Stock cams and full VVTi no restriction

[njccmd2002]

pics?

[MANDALAY]

Spent time with the builder today. Finally found someone more anal than me about engines
He is blue printing everything. Man he even trimmed the pistion rings for the right gap.
I have found an error with a part.
The oil squirters have been updated. They now have the allen bolt that holds them recessed into the body of the oil squirter. I guess to give a greater distance to the revolving crankshaft. Well they havent updated the allen bolt. No big deal, but to find an error is very rare.
Next , looking at the head, Toyota machined the holes for the head bolts just to clear the bolt. The washer must be droped in first at an angle. Why they didnt bore the hole for the size of the washer beats me.
Well because im getting my studs made ( to a longer length ) and the washers also instead of being 2 mm thick they will be around 40 mm ( for more stretch of the stud )
I have to bore out the opening, The aluminium is there...................
Ill also have to think about one more thing since the head is being machined i might tap the head for the oil return from the oil catch can like the Turbo head instead of using my pot, well more OEM i guess.
Also he can recheck all my shims

[MANDALAY]

Head studs and washers have been made. And were ready to put it together.
Well i went for my last run and washed here.
Here we go , im starting to dismantle here.
Need the head and some other bits of my engine but the rest will be new.
First stage will be closing the engine, Then X-Mass break
then put the fuel pump in and then the engine.
Then ill tow here home so as i can add all fluids, hoses and wiring. And lastly she will be tunned.
Should be done buy late Feb early March

[puretone]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

Spent time with the builder today. Finally found someone more anal than me about engines
He is blue printing everything. Man he even trimmed the pistion rings for the right gap.
I have found an error with a part.
The oil squirters have been updated. They now have the allen bolt that holds them recessed into the body of the oil squirter. I guess to give a greater distance to the revolving crankshaft. Well they havent updated the allen bolt. No big deal, but to find an error is very rare.
Next , looking at the head, Toyota machined the holes for the head bolts just to clear the bolt. The washer must be droped in first at an angle. Why they didnt bore the hole for the size of the washer beats me.
Well because im getting my studs made ( to a longer length ) and the washers also instead of being 2 mm thick they will be around 40 mm ( for more stretch of the stud )
I have to bore out the opening, The aluminium is there...................
Ill also have to think about one more thing since the head is being machined i might tap the head for the oil return from the oil catch can like the Turbo head instead of using my pot, well more OEM i guess.
Also he can recheck all my shims

Pics or it didn't happen! Of the squiters please!
Funny, we used 20/30 mm washers as well on this Honda build, not for mote stretch but simply because the studs were too long. No biggie, turned out to be better.

[puretone]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

Head studs and washers have been made. And were ready to put it together.
Well i went for my last run and washed here.
Here we go , im starting to dismantle here.
Need the head and some other bits of my engine but the rest will be new.
First stage will be closing the engine, Then X-Mass break
then put the fuel pump in and then the engine.
Then ill tow here home so as i can add all fluids, hoses and wiring. And lastly she will be tunned.
Should be done buy late Feb early March

No more "is it done yet?!" after march 2010???


Disaster for puretone-masterrrrr! No more done yet in the forrrummm, all gone with the done....caputo when finito.... Not fair for the puretone-sterrrr.....mebbe i'll just bug Roman & Servin instead...

[MANDALAY]

The wahers are about 40 mm thick for longer Studs , more stretch

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I can show a pic of the old ones but the new design are in the block.
Ill see if i can take a pic of them

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Redesigned oil squirters



Extended washers to allow longer studs to be made



Machined studs



Custom pistons. Note the recalculated squish area and volume.
Way over my head . Engineers racing knowledge

[puretone]

damn those are some sexy pictures!!!

What car is that you have sitting there?

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See the difference in the oil squirter ? Maybe i should post a pic of the original unit.

Hey thats TOP SECRET nah only joking Its an Alfa . Thats his speciality and Italian cars .

Well they are Italian the engineers .

BTW THANKS FOR NOT ASKING IS IT DONE YET

Its definitely moving ahead faster now. Just have to get my head off.....................

[puretone]

I don't immediately recognize the difference in oil squirters, compared to mine, could I already have the updated ones? Maybe a comparo would shed light...

Is that quarter panel out of whack? I pride myself for being able to recognize any car from just a limited picture of a single part...

Hey buddy, I figured I'd give you a break because you seem to be on a roll!
My spacers looked ghetto compared to your

Do you have any data on the shape of the flame front on those pistons? Angle, direction?

[MANDALAY]

Yeh he is using it for parts. Man its wall to wall alfas there with the odd ferrari.
No you wouldnt have the updated ones in the Red Top.
The original were are cast body . Now they are machined.. Also see where the allen head bolt is , well its different ,greater clearance to the crankshaft balancers






Hey man i really never minded the " is it finished yet "
AND THATS NOT AN INVITATION TO SAY IT !!!!!!!!!!!!

Have to get my head to the builders this week , Or its a 4 week delay. Man i have to destroy my VVTi pulley to get it off. I ground back the pulley to get to the bolts , there off now but **** still cant remove it as the head peice goes into the pulley cavity. So im going to remove the 5 allen bolts that attaches the outer section hopefully it will move forward so as i can lift the cap.

Now before you say $ , well its cheaper than getting my car towed to and back and there is no way im leaving it at the shop for weeks till the engine is built

[MANDALAY]

Do you have any data on the shape of the flame front on those pistons? Angle, direction?[/QUOTE]


No i dont , i can ask but i know on his racing cars he has had the piston manufacture build a lot of pistons in getting squish area abd volume to his liking.
The theory on the longer studs , well thats why Ferraris are so long. Also on his alfa he ran the Bathurst race nearly the whole race 1000 kms with a cracked block.

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Final word, YOU CANNOT take the head off without dropping the engine.
Stripped the engine, took the front and back bumpers off , engine lid and boot lid.
Its of to the engineers ro drop the engine..................This has been a long day 16 hrs straight. I am stuffed !!!!!!!!