3sge cams?

Butterz_611 · 09-21-2009, 07:21 PM

I was looking for some after market cams for a redtop 3sge and have found nothing. Could someone point me in the general direction.

Master Ash · 09-22-2009, 01:27 PM

i also need so If u find pm me please

Butterz_611 · 09-22-2009, 02:07 PM

anyone..i see TRD made cams but i have no idea the profile of them but from what i understand is that they no longer make them.

Celica RA45 · 09-22-2009, 03:55 PM

i make billetts for the red top and black top motors ,but only use 1 profile at the moment that uses some vvti but they are 13mm lift thou

BonzaiCelica · 09-22-2009, 08:11 PM

will these cam gears work on 3sge redtop???

Toda - Adjustable Cam Pulleys - Nengun Performance

pasqual · 09-23-2009, 09:06 AM

I did my own custom profile for Red-top

Intake : 278st 11.2mm
Exhaust: 276st 10.4mm

Toda pulley will works :

Intake VVTi cam: 14210-XE1-001 (for altezza)

Exhaust: 14211-3SG-001 (for rev2-3 3s-ge )

Celica RA45 · 09-24-2009, 06:47 AM

what are your cams at 50 thou duration pascal and why not still use vvti ,its there to be used

pasqual · 09-24-2009, 07:10 AM

duration at 50 thou ,I need to check profile table ...

Im still using vvti , converted/restricted to 14degCA movement

Celica RA45 · 10-23-2009, 09:25 PM

have you pulled them apart and locked them so it wont go any further

Chailam · 01-18-2010, 02:00 PM

did this one work fine on Beams red top Mr2?? from HKS

3S-G(T)E インナーシム専用(ST20#,SW20後期)

264° 10.0 111° 2202-RT089 ¥37,800 (¥36,000)

264° 9.7 116° 2202-RT090 ¥37,800 (¥36,000) ｲﾝﾅｰｼﾑ用

3S-G(T)E インナーシム専用(ST20#,SW20後期)

272° 10.4 111° 2202-RT091 ¥37,800 (¥36,000)
272° 10.2 116° 2202-RT092 ¥37,800 (¥36,000) ｲﾝﾅｰｼﾑ用、要ﾍｯﾄﾞ加工

Celica RA45 · 01-19-2010, 01:23 AM

hks only do 3sgte cams but i do make inlets with some vvti for red tops etc

Chailam · 01-20-2010, 11:19 PM

I am looking for one pair, could u please leave me your contact for detail, thank you

ssj3timy · 01-21-2010, 11:48 PM

me too, i was looking for them. please email me

Celica RA45 · 01-22-2010, 01:49 AM

guys i only make 1 profile as in cam grind for these at the moment ,they have 500 thou lift with 257 duration at 50 thou ,you would need valve springs cams and 1 vernier pulley to get the exhaust in its right cam posi and also a nother ecu to control the vvti and fuel and ignition
also i would need your vvti controllers to stop so much of the vvti from moving as if you dont you can smash valves in to pistons

pasqual · 01-22-2010, 01:54 AM

so 12.7 mm and 257deg@1,27mm correct ?

Celica RA45 · 01-22-2010, 01:55 AM

pasqual · 01-22-2010, 01:58 AM

my profile is :

11.2mm and 250deg@1.27mm (stock cams grind)

what cams You grind ? (can be in PM)

stock intake cam have ~228-229deg@1.27mm

PS: in December I used same cams profile in 3s-ge rev3 ,
CR 12.0 ,then all stock , exhaust + intake , making 200hp+ ,
project ongoing ....

sugarfree · 04-13-2010, 06:34 PM

Would it be possible to install Toda cam pulleys on stock cams? I read on the TODA website they recommend using toda screws with toda cams. What other things would need to be adjusted if it is possible to just install cam pulleys?

Celica RA45 · 04-14-2010, 02:10 AM

if you use the toda cam gears then you cant use vvti my profile will fit onto a 31 mm bucket and still use some vvti ,but its cams valve springs as well

sugarfree · 04-14-2010, 03:28 PM

Damn, so its not that simple.... SUCK.

09-21-2009, 07:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Butterz_611 No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	3sge cams? I was looking for some after market cams for a redtop 3sge and have found nothing. Could someone point me in the general direction.

09-23-2009, 09:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
pasqual Beams Owners Group Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BRNO/CZ Posts: 152 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I did my own custom profile for Red-top Intake : 278st 11.2mm Exhaust: 276st 10.4mm Toda pulley will works : Intake VVTi cam: 14210-XE1-001 (for altezza) Exhaust: 14211-3SG-001 (for rev2-3 3s-ge ) Last edited by pasqual; 09-23-2009 at 09:17 AM..

01-22-2010, 01:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yes

01-22-2010, 01:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
pasqual Beams Owners Group Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BRNO/CZ Posts: 152 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	my profile is : 11.2mm and 250deg@1.27mm (stock cams grind) what cams You grind ? (can be in PM) stock intake cam have ~228-229deg@1.27mm PS: in December I used same cams profile in 3s-ge rev3 , CR 12.0 ,then all stock , exhaust + intake , making 200hp+ , project ongoing .... Last edited by pasqual; 01-22-2010 at 02:13 AM..

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09-22-2009, 01:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Master Ash No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i also need so If u find pm me please

09-22-2009, 02:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Butterz_611 No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	anyone..i see TRD made cams but i have no idea the profile of them but from what i understand is that they no longer make them.

09-22-2009, 03:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i make billetts for the red top and black top motors ,but only use 1 profile at the moment that uses some vvti but they are 13mm lift thou

09-22-2009, 08:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
BonzaiCelica Cage Fighter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 299 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	will these cam gears work on 3sge redtop??? Toda - Adjustable Cam Pulleys - Nengun Performance

09-24-2009, 06:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	what are your cams at 50 thou duration pascal and why not still use vvti ,its there to be used

09-24-2009, 07:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
pasqual Beams Owners Group Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BRNO/CZ Posts: 152 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	duration at 50 thou ,I need to check profile table ... Im still using vvti , converted/restricted to 14degCA movement

10-23-2009, 09:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	have you pulled them apart and locked them so it wont go any further

01-18-2010, 02:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chailam No Skills Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	did this one work fine on Beams red top Mr2?? from HKS 3S-G(T)E インナーシム専用(ST20#,SW20後期) 264° 10.0 111° 2202-RT089 ¥37,800 (¥36,000) 264° 9.7 116° 2202-RT090 ¥37,800 (¥36,000) ｲﾝﾅｰｼﾑ用 3S-G(T)E インナーシム専用(ST20#,SW20後期) 272° 10.4 111° 2202-RT091 ¥37,800 (¥36,000) 272° 10.2 116° 2202-RT092 ¥37,800 (¥36,000) ｲﾝﾅｰｼﾑ用、要ﾍｯﾄﾞ加工

01-19-2010, 01:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	hks only do 3sgte cams but i do make inlets with some vvti for red tops etc

01-20-2010, 11:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chailam No Skills Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I am looking for one pair, could u please leave me your contact for detail, thank you

01-21-2010, 11:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
ssj3timy Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lima-peru Posts: 49 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	me too, i was looking for them. please email me

01-22-2010, 01:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	guys i only make 1 profile as in cam grind for these at the moment ,they have 500 thou lift with 257 duration at 50 thou ,you would need valve springs cams and 1 vernier pulley to get the exhaust in its right cam posi and also a nother ecu to control the vvti and fuel and ignition also i would need your vvti controllers to stop so much of the vvti from moving as if you dont you can smash valves in to pistons

01-22-2010, 01:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
pasqual Beams Owners Group Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BRNO/CZ Posts: 152 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	so 12.7 mm and 257deg@1,27mm correct ?

04-13-2010, 06:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
sugarfree Some Skills Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 63 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Would it be possible to install Toda cam pulleys on stock cams? I read on the TODA website they recommend using toda screws with toda cams. What other things would need to be adjusted if it is possible to just install cam pulleys?

04-14-2010, 02:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	if you use the toda cam gears then you cant use vvti my profile will fit onto a 31 mm bucket and still use some vvti ,but its cams valve springs as well

04-14-2010, 03:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
sugarfree Some Skills Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 63 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Damn, so its not that simple.... SUCK.