camry solara intake oem

njccmd2002 · 11-18-2009, 07:35 PM

well, i guess trial and error costs some.

28 bucks to find out that it does not fit the stock. it is maybe 1 mm less than the stock from the inside and does not fit my rubber hose snuggly. what a shame...

is that the way it fits with the aftermarket pipe from the solara, cuz it shoudl be same diamater

nevermind the ruler i did not have another one

aprox 67 mm

here it mounts the maf perfect...

puretone · 11-19-2009, 12:11 AM

That rubber gasket goes OUTSIDE of the intake pipe, it does not go there inside where you put it.......

Do you have an ice-cream truck too? What poor little girl did you have to kidnap to obtain that ruler? Shame on you! Everyone knows you need to kidnap a Mechanical Engimineer in order to get a proper prices Caliper/Slide-rule.

That OEM 2001 Camry intake box should be exact diameter of the BEAMS since it uses the exact same MAF. Now I wonder if your ruler is crazy (it sure looks like it is...) or if the OEM Camry airbox is narrow diameter but the ECU compensates for it.....though the eBay "short ram intake" for that car has the proper diameter for the BEAMS....

MR JAS · 11-19-2009, 02:52 AM

njccmd2002 · 11-19-2009, 07:44 AM

well its my daughters, ill get a caliper to measure, the thing is that it does not fit my rubber intake, shoud i use a spacer?

njccmd2002 · 11-19-2009, 08:14 AM

im still in the search for this....

njccmd2002 · 11-20-2009, 11:00 PM

well ii got somebody to post the celica oem intake and its a clear difference...

so guys, dont get the oem maf

Roman · 11-22-2009, 12:51 AM

Oh god...

I've got a 1MZ airbox that I've used, and a quick measure of the OD, it appears to be the smaller size also.

Which would explain why the engine appears to be running rich so far.

Which doubly sucks ass, as the airflow meter housing is integrated as part of my fibreglass airbox, so is a mish to change it. FML!

Roman · 11-22-2009, 01:22 AM

I just checked properly now, and 66mm inside diameter for 1MZ airbox that I've got too.

So now my airbox over quads, piping, and air filter box are all the wrong size.

*sigh*

Aaah well, it at least answers why the car has been running so rich!

njccmd2002 · 11-22-2009, 10:42 AM

well it depends on the engine you got it for, cuz i was looking at the hks website and it lists the following.

ALTEZZA SXE10 3S-GE 80 mm 70019-AT054
CELICA ST202 3S-GE 80 mm 70019-AT049 for VVT-I

cannot find the specs for the mr2 engine, however i can say those are the outside diameters, so probably inside diameter is 76mm.

so for my car the aftermarket solara wont work. oh well, keep looking just wanted to share info on the subject.

Roman · 11-22-2009, 05:19 PM

I would imagine that all of the 3SGE intake pipes would be the 75-76mm size...

With my last car, I used an airbox from a Caldina GT, and that worked perfectly.

puretone · 11-22-2009, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman

Oh god...

I've got a 1MZ airbox that I've used, and a quick measure of the OD, it appears to be the smaller size also.

Which would explain why the engine appears to be running rich so far.

Which doubly sucks ass, as the airflow meter housing is integrated as part of my fibreglass airbox, so is a mish to change it. FML!

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6581/airboxm.jpg

Nice oil-pan LOL!!!

edit: OUTSIDE diameter doesn't mean jack-shi---at, fit some rubber hose around it or something & make it fit snug.

Kids, Kids, the INSIDE diameter is 76mm, verified with my ultra expensive Caliper.
Now watch out with those eBay ones, they are kinda hit-n-miss when it comes to proper diameter for our MAF. So see if you can verify BEFORE you buy with the seller that it's 76mm or VERY VERY close to that. Regardless if it's going to thru some aftermarket air-filter you wanna mess with the A/F ratios anyways

njccmd2002 · 11-23-2009, 11:42 AM

yup 76mm... the solara airbox is 68

BonzaiCelica · 01-07-2010, 06:37 PM

so this wont work right?

98 99 00 LEXUS GS300 Short Ram Air Intake w/Filter BLK:eBay Motors (item 380192650251 end time Jan-28-10 15:23:36 PST)

njccmd2002 · 01-08-2010, 02:45 PM

ask about the internal diameter. i have seen that the silver ones are closer to diameter than the black ones.

I may just order a SARD or a HKS and pay to play....

mr220v · 01-08-2010, 03:06 PM

Good info. I just picked up a maf for my greytop that came with the box. I guess I'll be buying another cheap aftermarket pipe.

Mroku · 01-30-2010, 03:44 AM

Anyone got a clear photo showing the measurement of ID=76mm?

I've measured the housing I have (which I think is chopped off the oem Celica airbox) and the HKS housing and they both come up with an ID of 71mm. (OD is 77mm, not that it matters).

(njccmd2002 the HKS specification of 80mm on their website is the diameter of the opening of their air filter. You can see the hose use to connect it onto the housing gets smaller. I think it's just to specify which hks is the right one and not the actual size of the afm housing).

I have an ae86 with a redtop which still has a flat spot and is running rich. I have meshing inside the intake just before the afm to straighten out the air flow which does not work. (Done the straw thing too).

I've now just put the resonator box back onto the oem hose bend (that goes from the throttle body to the afm housing). I have found articles and one dyno tested saying removal of the resonator box will drop some power (even though people say it's only for the sound). So far I've just had a quick drive and so far so good but the weather hasn't been ideal as it's fairly hot (35 degrees Celcius). Will have to see what it's like in the next few days of driving.

Also can anyone do a test... Drive with the VVTi solenoid plug connected and disconnected? I couldn't feel that much difference when I tried it and nor was there much difference when dyno'd.

Celica RA45 · 01-30-2010, 06:27 PM

your vvti solinoid might be burnt out what power does it make on the dyno with it on and off ,and is it a std ecu
the guy that tuned waynos in perth kept the vvti to high in the settings ,which can burn them out

Mroku · 01-30-2010, 09:20 PM

Hey Glenn, it's Mic.

Still running standard ecu. The engine light will go on if I unplug it like it's supposed to. Dyno'd it like a couple of years ago and I didn't keep a graph of the VVTi unplugged run, but it was generally the same as when it was plugged in. That run had 100rwkw at chasers and it was running rich.

The real problem is the flat spot though, I can hold throttle at a certain point and feel the car does not accelerate smoothly and even feels like it's bogging down sometimes. I can hear a gurgling sometimes which sounds like overfueling too.

Celica RA45 · 01-30-2010, 10:43 PM

i would need to check it mic but the vvti solinoids do burn out after a while
waynes use to make 173 hp then it started to make 145 hp and this before motec
if yours is not changing and still making 100kws it might be something else

BonzaiCelica · 01-31-2010, 04:47 AM

ok so according to this whole post this is what I understood :

OEM Celica air box has an inside diameter of 76 mm right before the MAF Sensor

HKS adapter has a inside diameter of 71 mm before the MAF sensor?

so that would mean that the hks adapter is no good. Anbody have the inside diameter for the SARD Filter??

11-18-2009, 07:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
njccmd2002 Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jackson TN Posts: 154 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	camry solara intake oem well, i guess trial and error costs some. 28 bucks to find out that it does not fit the stock. it is maybe 1 mm less than the stock from the inside and does not fit my rubber hose snuggly. what a shame... is that the way it fits with the aftermarket pipe from the solara, cuz it shoudl be same diamater nevermind the ruler i did not have another one aprox 67 mm here it mounts the maf perfect...

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Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 946 Thanks: 23 Thanked 56 Times in 36 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Oh god... I've got a 1MZ airbox that I've used, and a quick measure of the OD, it appears to be the smaller size also. Which would explain why the engine appears to be running rich so far. Which doubly sucks ass, as the airflow meter housing is integrated as part of my fibreglass airbox, so is a mish to change it. FML! Last edited by Roman; 11-22-2009 at 12:57 AM..

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11-19-2009, 12:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	That rubber gasket goes OUTSIDE of the intake pipe, it does not go there inside where you put it....... Do you have an ice-cream truck too? What poor little girl did you have to kidnap to obtain that ruler? Shame on you! Everyone knows you need to kidnap a Mechanical Engimineer in order to get a proper prices Caliper/Slide-rule. That OEM 2001 Camry intake box should be exact diameter of the BEAMS since it uses the exact same MAF. Now I wonder if your ruler is crazy (it sure looks like it is...) or if the OEM Camry airbox is narrow diameter but the ECU compensates for it.....though the eBay "short ram intake" for that car has the proper diameter for the BEAMS....

11-19-2009, 02:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
MR JAS Generous to a fault Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: hamilton new zealand Posts: 722 Thanks: 19 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )

11-19-2009, 07:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
njccmd2002 Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jackson TN Posts: 154 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	well its my daughters, ill get a caliper to measure, the thing is that it does not fit my rubber intake, shoud i use a spacer?

11-19-2009, 08:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
njccmd2002 Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jackson TN Posts: 154 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	im still in the search for this....

11-20-2009, 11:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
njccmd2002 Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jackson TN Posts: 154 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	well ii got somebody to post the celica oem intake and its a clear difference... so guys, dont get the oem maf

11-22-2009, 01:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 946 Thanks: 23 Thanked 56 Times in 36 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I just checked properly now, and 66mm inside diameter for 1MZ airbox that I've got too. So now my airbox over quads, piping, and air filter box are all the wrong size. sigh Aaah well, it at least answers why the car has been running so rich!

11-22-2009, 10:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
njccmd2002 Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jackson TN Posts: 154 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	well it depends on the engine you got it for, cuz i was looking at the hks website and it lists the following. ALTEZZA SXE10 3S-GE 80 mm 70019-AT054 CELICA ST202 3S-GE 80 mm 70019-AT049 for VVT-I cannot find the specs for the mr2 engine, however i can say those are the outside diameters, so probably inside diameter is 76mm. so for my car the aftermarket solara wont work. oh well, keep looking just wanted to share info on the subject.

11-22-2009, 05:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 946 Thanks: 23 Thanked 56 Times in 36 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I would imagine that all of the 3SGE intake pipes would be the 75-76mm size... With my last car, I used an airbox from a Caldina GT, and that worked perfectly.

11-23-2009, 11:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
njccmd2002 Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jackson TN Posts: 154 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	yup 76mm... the solara airbox is 68

01-07-2010, 06:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
BonzaiCelica Cage Fighter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 299 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	so this wont work right? 98 99 00 LEXUS GS300 Short Ram Air Intake w/Filter BLK:eBay Motors (item 380192650251 end time Jan-28-10 15:23:36 PST)

01-08-2010, 02:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
njccmd2002 Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jackson TN Posts: 154 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	ask about the internal diameter. i have seen that the silver ones are closer to diameter than the black ones. I may just order a SARD or a HKS and pay to play....

01-08-2010, 03:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	Good info. I just picked up a maf for my greytop that came with the box. I guess I'll be buying another cheap aftermarket pipe.

01-30-2010, 03:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
Mroku Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 33 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Anyone got a clear photo showing the measurement of ID=76mm? I've measured the housing I have (which I think is chopped off the oem Celica airbox) and the HKS housing and they both come up with an ID of 71mm. (OD is 77mm, not that it matters). (njccmd2002 the HKS specification of 80mm on their website is the diameter of the opening of their air filter. You can see the hose use to connect it onto the housing gets smaller. I think it's just to specify which hks is the right one and not the actual size of the afm housing). I have an ae86 with a redtop which still has a flat spot and is running rich. I have meshing inside the intake just before the afm to straighten out the air flow which does not work. (Done the straw thing too). I've now just put the resonator box back onto the oem hose bend (that goes from the throttle body to the afm housing). I have found articles and one dyno tested saying removal of the resonator box will drop some power (even though people say it's only for the sound). So far I've just had a quick drive and so far so good but the weather hasn't been ideal as it's fairly hot (35 degrees Celcius). Will have to see what it's like in the next few days of driving. Also can anyone do a test... Drive with the VVTi solenoid plug connected and disconnected? I couldn't feel that much difference when I tried it and nor was there much difference when dyno'd.

01-30-2010, 06:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	your vvti solinoid might be burnt out what power does it make on the dyno with it on and off ,and is it a std ecu the guy that tuned waynos in perth kept the vvti to high in the settings ,which can burn them out

01-30-2010, 09:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mroku Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 33 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Hey Glenn, it's Mic. Still running standard ecu. The engine light will go on if I unplug it like it's supposed to. Dyno'd it like a couple of years ago and I didn't keep a graph of the VVTi unplugged run, but it was generally the same as when it was plugged in. That run had 100rwkw at chasers and it was running rich. The real problem is the flat spot though, I can hold throttle at a certain point and feel the car does not accelerate smoothly and even feels like it's bogging down sometimes. I can hear a gurgling sometimes which sounds like overfueling too.

01-30-2010, 10:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 628 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i would need to check it mic but the vvti solinoids do burn out after a while waynes use to make 173 hp then it started to make 145 hp and this before motec if yours is not changing and still making 100kws it might be something else

01-31-2010, 04:47 AM	#20 (permalink)
BonzaiCelica Cage Fighter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 299 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ok so according to this whole post this is what I understood : OEM Celica air box has an inside diameter of 76 mm right before the MAF Sensor HKS adapter has a inside diameter of 71 mm before the MAF sensor? so that would mean that the hks adapter is no good. Anbody have the inside diameter for the SARD Filter??