Cams And VVT-I - Page 2

Weasy2k · 09-11-2006, 11:49 AM

so you can get new parts?

WFX · 09-12-2006, 04:48 AM

Well I have a new EMS coming as soon as I sort out my last problem and its all running like it should be!

Shame I cant fit quad throttles into my ST184 otherwise Id do it! well I assume the firewall would stop me from having these, no idea what the size of them are yet.

Celica RA45 · 09-15-2006, 05:20 AM

yes all are new
billet inlet cam 1000 aussie ,billet exhaust 500 aussie with cam pro file of mine put on
pistons about 1200 aussie a set with rings
rods are a special crom moly 1500 a set of 4
valve springs 800 a set of 16
vvti controller changed from 26% to new movement this is 300 aussie change over
all these parts will require a new ecu to run vvti so either Motec .Autronic or apexi i think will run it as well as what roman mentioned as well
also make quads to bolt on from 45mm 48mm and 50 mm they cost about 250 aussie each and include linkages
manifolds can still be bought from TRD and are about 800 aussie there abouts

these parts work as i tried these out on my race motors and my motors still run on 98 octane fuel and comp ratio is about 12.5 to 1
all prices plus postage thanks glenn

PHOENIX · 09-15-2006, 06:01 AM

If you would like, I will throw those up on the Beams Website for free.

I will need pictures and a brief discription of each item for the Site. It would make a nice edition to the website and I bet you would be able to gain interest from people willing to purchase those items as they are not available elsewhere and simply don't know about them.

WFX · 12-15-2006, 12:46 AM

Now this is something I found interesting:

3SGE ITB FWD Setup

It enables the fitment of Throttle Boides on a FWD Gen 3 3SGE. Although rather pricey does anyone know if the lower gen 3 intake manifold sizes are the same as the BEAMS?

Things are looking up for me yet!

puretone · 12-15-2006, 01:20 AM

man im starting to wish we had that L attached to our VVT....sigh
i want MORE power, i think im starting to be sedduced by the precisionturbo dark side of the HP-force.....

WFX · 12-15-2006, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puretone

man im starting to wish we had that L attached to our VVT....sigh
i want MORE power, i think im starting to be sedduced by the precisionturbo dark side of the HP-force.....

Step into the light my child...

puretone · 12-15-2006, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WFX

Now this is something I found interesting:

3SGE ITB FWD Setup

It enables the fitment of Throttle Boides on a FWD Gen 3 3SGE. Although rather pricey does anyone know if the lower gen 3 intake manifold sizes are the same as the BEAMS?

Things are looking up for me yet!

oh i'd just be GREEEEEN with envy if you got those, but dont we already have individual velocity stacks on our BEAMS intakes?
http://www.beams-redtop.com/Intake.jpg
http://www.beams-redtop.com/Intake%20closeup.jpg

which would possibly mean we got enough space for ITB's

OH YESSSSSSSSSS

http://www.toda-racing.jp/product/on...sg/3sg-12.html

there you go you pervert!!!!

PHOENIX · 12-15-2006, 01:34 AM

hahaha, Strong Work!

mmhmmm, turbo beams....

Edit: OMG, i think i just wet myself. That is sexy puretone.
you know Celica_RA45 sells the ITB adapter.

WFX · 12-15-2006, 01:36 AM

Was more looking at not just the ITBs but the adaptor plate so we can use ITBs in our FWD Celicas... otherwise the ITBs would hit the firewall if you know what I mean.

Sports Injection Kit... sweet god that would be awesome to have, might chew through the gas but what a weapon it would be to bad its still in development!

EDIT: But does Glenn sell the adaptor to fit FWD cars? Hopefully he'll pop in shortly and let us know! And would say the Brashboy Power FC beable to handle ITBs such as these or would you have to go for something like a Motec?

PHOENIX · 12-15-2006, 01:41 AM

actually, i think the adapter is made for the FWD cars, i think if you put it on an SW20, your gonna be cutting something....but lets let glenn chime in on this one, he's the pro.

puretone · 12-15-2006, 01:50 AM

oh god i just ruined myself

http://www.toda-racing.jp/product/on...sg/3sg-09.html

2.2 liter BEAMS RedTop Stroker Turbo.....im fantasizing.....low compression, forged, boost, boooooooooooost!

can you guys make that website disappear? dammit!!!

oh hey about ITB's how the hell do those measure flow? no MAF, no MAP, how is that handled? I think that answers your Q about PowerFC or brashboyECU Wayno....i think you'd have to go with something more exotic that can somehow measure flow per throttle body....

PHOENIX · 12-15-2006, 01:53 AM

oh god

Does anyone know if the Bottom end of the redtop is the same as the blacktop? If they are the same, houston...we have lift off!

fck it, im going down there tomorrow.

Edit: Shit, they are 6 hours away from me.

puretone · 12-15-2006, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

oh god

Does anyone know if the Bottom end of the redtop is the same as the blacktop? If they are the same, houston...we have lift off!

fck it, im going down there tomorrow.

Edit: Shit, they are 6 hours away from me.

im assuming they are the same, and probably uprated from 3SGTE days, i know the altezza's do okay on 8psi of boost with stock everything so the bottom end should be pretty strong, and if they are anything like the 3SGTE then the bottom end is hella strong....i dont see why Toyota would go with an inferior design for a newer generation engine...plus it makes no sense to me why they would make a specific bottom end for just the BlackTop, i say they are the same! hehehehe

Edophus · 12-15-2006, 06:51 PM

I'm still trying to decide whether to go turbo or itb's in the future myself. I've got a greddy emanage ultimate to hook up once i get a harness, and it can do some fancy stuff like output a airflow meter map, so you can get rid of the afm and use tps or map for tuning.

I've seen they have released a v-manage in japan, that will work along side the emanage ultimate, and it controls the vvti portion of things.

With Itb's though, if you enclosed them in airbox you could still keep the afm upstream of it, much like the silvertop 4age does i think.

Celica RA45 · 12-15-2006, 07:36 PM

the quads and including inlet and ram tube is 165mm in length in total and you would need another 50mm for clearence to the fire wall

Edophus · 12-16-2006, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celica RA45

the quads and including inlet and ram tube is 165mm in length in total and you would need another 50mm for clearence to the fire wall

Is that from where the adapter plate meets the head? thats just the info I need to tell me whether there is space thanks!

Celica RA45 · 12-16-2006, 08:12 AM

the total length including the inlet adapter is 165mm long in total

09-15-2006, 05:20 AM	#23 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 627 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	re parts yes all are new billet inlet cam 1000 aussie ,billet exhaust 500 aussie with cam pro file of mine put on pistons about 1200 aussie a set with rings rods are a special crom moly 1500 a set of 4 valve springs 800 a set of 16 vvti controller changed from 26% to new movement this is 300 aussie change over all these parts will require a new ecu to run vvti so either Motec .Autronic or apexi i think will run it as well as what roman mentioned as well also make quads to bolt on from 45mm 48mm and 50 mm they cost about 250 aussie each and include linkages manifolds can still be bought from TRD and are about 800 aussie there abouts these parts work as i tried these out on my race motors and my motors still run on 98 octane fuel and comp ratio is about 12.5 to 1 all prices plus postage thanks glenn

12-15-2006, 07:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 627 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	quads the quads and including inlet and ram tube is 165mm in length in total and you would need another 50mm for clearence to the fire wall

12-16-2006, 08:12 AM	#38 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 627 Thanks: 0 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	quads the total length including the inlet adapter is 165mm long in total

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

09-11-2006, 11:49 AM	#21 (permalink)
Weasy2k What is an MR2? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,891 Thanks: 33 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	so you can get new parts?

09-12-2006, 04:48 AM	#22 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Well I have a new EMS coming as soon as I sort out my last problem and its all running like it should be! Shame I cant fit quad throttles into my ST184 otherwise Id do it! well I assume the firewall would stop me from having these, no idea what the size of them are yet.

09-15-2006, 06:01 AM	#24 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	If you would like, I will throw those up on the Beams Website for free. I will need pictures and a brief discription of each item for the Site. It would make a nice edition to the website and I bet you would be able to gain interest from people willing to purchase those items as they are not available elsewhere and simply don't know about them.

12-15-2006, 12:46 AM	#25 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Now this is something I found interesting: 3SGE ITB FWD Setup It enables the fitment of Throttle Boides on a FWD Gen 3 3SGE. Although rather pricey does anyone know if the lower gen 3 intake manifold sizes are the same as the BEAMS? Things are looking up for me yet!

12-15-2006, 01:20 AM	#26 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	man im starting to wish we had that L attached to our VVT....sigh i want MORE power, i think im starting to be sedduced by the precisionturbo dark side of the HP-force.....

12-15-2006, 01:34 AM	#29 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	hahaha, Strong Work! mmhmmm, turbo beams.... Edit: OMG, i think i just wet myself. That is sexy puretone. you know Celica_RA45 sells the ITB adapter.

12-15-2006, 01:36 AM	#30 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Was more looking at not just the ITBs but the adaptor plate so we can use ITBs in our FWD Celicas... otherwise the ITBs would hit the firewall if you know what I mean. Sports Injection Kit... sweet god that would be awesome to have, might chew through the gas but what a weapon it would be to bad its still in development! EDIT: But does Glenn sell the adaptor to fit FWD cars? Hopefully he'll pop in shortly and let us know! And would say the Brashboy Power FC beable to handle ITBs such as these or would you have to go for something like a Motec?

12-15-2006, 01:41 AM	#31 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	actually, i think the adapter is made for the FWD cars, i think if you put it on an SW20, your gonna be cutting something....but lets let glenn chime in on this one, he's the pro.

12-15-2006, 01:50 AM	#32 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	oh god i just ruined myself http://www.toda-racing.jp/product/on...sg/3sg-09.html 2.2 liter BEAMS RedTop Stroker Turbo.....im fantasizing.....low compression, forged, boost, boooooooooooost! can you guys make that website disappear? dammit!!! oh hey about ITB's how the hell do those measure flow? no MAF, no MAP, how is that handled? I think that answers your Q about PowerFC or brashboyECU Wayno....i think you'd have to go with something more exotic that can somehow measure flow per throttle body....

12-15-2006, 01:53 AM	#33 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	oh god Does anyone know if the Bottom end of the redtop is the same as the blacktop? If they are the same, houston...we have lift off! fck it, im going down there tomorrow. Edit: Shit, they are 6 hours away from me.

12-15-2006, 06:51 PM	#35 (permalink)
Edophus Beams Owners Group Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 370 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I'm still trying to decide whether to go turbo or itb's in the future myself. I've got a greddy emanage ultimate to hook up once i get a harness, and it can do some fancy stuff like output a airflow meter map, so you can get rid of the afm and use tps or map for tuning. I've seen they have released a v-manage in japan, that will work along side the emanage ultimate, and it controls the vvti portion of things. With Itb's though, if you enclosed them in airbox you could still keep the afm upstream of it, much like the silvertop 4age does i think.