RedTop Manual

PHOENIX · 07-07-2006, 02:32 AM

Well, i went down to toyota today to pick up the engine and wiring manual and they didnt have them in stock. So i ordered them but for some reason, said it would take month to get here

So as soon as i get them, ill start translating the wiring for people to use since that seems to be the biggest problem people have right now.

Not sure why that is, a damn month...what are they going to print a copy for me?

The price though was actually outstanding, cost me $40 bucks for both manuals.......Im quite happy about that.

Gattsu · 07-07-2006, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PHOENIX

Well, i went down to toyota today to pick up the engine and wiring manual and they didnt have them in stock. So i ordered them but for some reason, said it would take month to get here

So as soon as i get them, ill start translating the wiring for people to use since that seems to be the biggest problem people have right now.

Not sure why that is, a damn month...what are they going to print a copy for me?

The price though was actually outstanding, cost me $40 bucks for both manuals.......Im quite happy about that.

Hmm, I'll have to order one for my 3SGE some time.

WFX · 07-07-2006, 04:29 AM

A month god damn!!

Oh well shall push on as best I can till then!

Good price thou yeah!!

red-top · 08-30-2006, 05:19 PM

hello
please help me
i look for wiring diagrams beams red-top mr2 sw20
i have money for you!
thanks

PHOENIX · 08-30-2006, 07:13 PM

They still havn't called me yet, and they should be here by now.

Ill see if i can swing down there this weekend and find out.

EricLee7481 · 08-31-2006, 03:04 AM

Let me know as well. I'm interested in picking up those literatures for BEAMS.

Thanks

Eric

puretone · 09-03-2006, 04:44 AM

man i would bend over backwards for that damned BEAMS diagram of everything....i have some scans of what seems to be the BEAMS wiring but its in jap i think....
have a look at http://bitcrusher.org/gallery/BEAMS-in-my-Celica i posted 3 images of the 3SGE wiring....i hope they can help....they are def a good help to me!

red-top · 09-03-2006, 07:23 AM

thanks for you post.
wiring is good for mr2 beams or just celica beams?
thanks

PHOENIX · 09-03-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by puretone

man i would bend over backwards for that damned BEAMS diagram of everything....i have some scans of what seems to be the BEAMS wiring but its in jap i think....
have a look at http://bitcrusher.org/gallery/BEAMS-in-my-Celica i posted 3 images of the 3SGE wiring....i hope they can help....they are def a good help to me!

I don't have my books yet, i did order them, but if someone can officially confirm that those are the wiring diagrams for the beams redtop, i will translate them tuesday and post them that evening. Something like that shouldn't take me more than a few hours.

(wow, that was really hard to write drunk, took me 10 minutes)

WFX · 09-03-2006, 08:25 PM

Those diagrams are for the ST215 Caldina (Auto), same ones I used for my swap from what I worked out its mostly right!

puretone · 09-07-2006, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

I don't have my books yet, i did order them, but if someone can officially confirm that those are the wiring diagrams for the beams redtop, i will translate them tuesday and post them that evening. Something like that shouldn't take me more than a few hours.

(wow, that was really hard to write drunk, took me 10 minutes)

if you can translate those i would be in debt to you forever lol, i really need the the english one badly....

PHOENIX · 09-07-2006, 03:20 AM

They havn't come in yet, i checked this past tuesday

I don't know why, but they said it takes a month to get the books from there warehouse from the city of Toyota. But i can get a part like a rotor in 3 days.

Its been almost 6 weeks. I think the guy forgot or something and is covering his tracks by BSing to me. (or i think he is, i cant understand japanese)

puretone · 09-07-2006, 06:58 AM

that book is probably covered in dust somewhere in a dark corner....rotors however.....SIGH

hey you cant translate http://www.bitcrusher.org/gallery/BE...-Celica/3sge_1 & http://www.bitcrusher.org/gallery/BE...-Celica/3sge_2 could you? *Growls* its the one thing i am stuck at.....

PHOENIX · 09-07-2006, 07:17 AM

I can translate it but it will take awhile, like 2 weeks, depends on my workload.

What is it? for a celica or caldina?

puretone · 09-07-2006, 07:29 AM

redtop beams going into my celica....wiring should be close or similar....its better than having as much as i have right now, which is nothing....

the wiring images are from caldina as far as i know, which is grey top, but i dont see why the wiring would be any different since its the same engine, apart from the trans

PHOENIX · 09-07-2006, 07:35 AM

your not using the ECU from the grey top are you?

puretone · 09-08-2006, 05:37 AM

nope

got the redtop as a clip with complete wiring harnass.

i got her fired up today, i was so freaking happy about it!
i swear i danced around the garage for like 15mins, all the crew made fun of me.
this was after i wasted a whole day trying to figure out (reverse engineer) all standard wiring....

I wonder if it will all work or if i will have issues like WFX has and end up with wires that go nowhere.
I wanna do it all proper and also figure out where the OBD wires go/come from.

which brings me to the following question, is this thing OBD1 or OBD2 ?? The plugs make no sense, more than half the wires are missing from it....

TEX · 09-09-2006, 06:34 AM

If you want the english version of that diagram PM me. Have a proper english version from toyota.

Now in saying that. Can someone confirm that the the ECU loom only has two plugs that plugs into the ECU and the other two plugs are from the body loom and does any one have the body loom section. I have yet to ask my contact about getting that part o fthe manual.

I am getting a manual translated but might be some time away, cos he is doing it in his spare time. But from the stuff I have got i can't see why a motor cannot be wired up.

I was wanting info about the assembly etc of the engine rather than the wiring side of things.

Are the valves in the redtop/silver top titanium like the dual Vvti?? cos they don't look it. But can't see why they are wanting soooo much money for them as replacements.

TEX

PHOENIX · 09-09-2006, 06:51 AM

no, the valves in the redtop are not titanium

puretone · 09-12-2006, 02:33 AM

blacktop = titanium, aparently.

and yes the ecu has two plugs that go to body loom, two to engine

07-07-2006, 02:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
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07-07-2006, 04:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	A month god damn!! Oh well shall push on as best I can till then! Good price thou yeah!!

08-30-2006, 05:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
red-top Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 45 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	hello please help me i look for wiring diagrams beams red-top mr2 sw20 i have money for you! thanks

08-30-2006, 07:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	They still havn't called me yet, and they should be here by now. Ill see if i can swing down there this weekend and find out.

08-31-2006, 03:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
EricLee7481 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 160 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Let me know as well. I'm interested in picking up those literatures for BEAMS. Thanks Eric

09-03-2006, 04:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	man i would bend over backwards for that damned BEAMS diagram of everything....i have some scans of what seems to be the BEAMS wiring but its in jap i think.... have a look at http://bitcrusher.org/gallery/BEAMS-in-my-Celica i posted 3 images of the 3SGE wiring....i hope they can help....they are def a good help to me!

09-03-2006, 07:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
red-top Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 45 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	thanks for you post. wiring is good for mr2 beams or just celica beams? thanks

09-03-2006, 08:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 352 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Those diagrams are for the ST215 Caldina (Auto), same ones I used for my swap from what I worked out its mostly right!

09-07-2006, 03:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	They havn't come in yet, i checked this past tuesday I don't know why, but they said it takes a month to get the books from there warehouse from the city of Toyota. But i can get a part like a rotor in 3 days. Its been almost 6 weeks. I think the guy forgot or something and is covering his tracks by BSing to me. (or i think he is, i cant understand japanese)

09-07-2006, 06:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	that book is probably covered in dust somewhere in a dark corner....rotors however.....SIGH hey you cant translate http://www.bitcrusher.org/gallery/BE...-Celica/3sge_1 & http://www.bitcrusher.org/gallery/BE...-Celica/3sge_2 could you? Growls its the one thing i am stuck at.....

09-07-2006, 07:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	I can translate it but it will take awhile, like 2 weeks, depends on my workload. What is it? for a celica or caldina?

09-07-2006, 07:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	redtop beams going into my celica....wiring should be close or similar....its better than having as much as i have right now, which is nothing.... the wiring images are from caldina as far as i know, which is grey top, but i dont see why the wiring would be any different since its the same engine, apart from the trans

09-07-2006, 07:35 AM	#16 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	your not using the ECU from the grey top are you?

09-08-2006, 05:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	nope got the redtop as a clip with complete wiring harnass. i got her fired up today, i was so freaking happy about it! i swear i danced around the garage for like 15mins, all the crew made fun of me. this was after i wasted a whole day trying to figure out (reverse engineer) all standard wiring.... I wonder if it will all work or if i will have issues like WFX has and end up with wires that go nowhere. I wanna do it all proper and also figure out where the OBD wires go/come from. which brings me to the following question, is this thing OBD1 or OBD2 ?? The plugs make no sense, more than half the wires are missing from it....

09-09-2006, 06:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
TEX No Skills Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	If you want the english version of that diagram PM me. Have a proper english version from toyota. Now in saying that. Can someone confirm that the the ECU loom only has two plugs that plugs into the ECU and the other two plugs are from the body loom and does any one have the body loom section. I have yet to ask my contact about getting that part o fthe manual. I am getting a manual translated but might be some time away, cos he is doing it in his spare time. But from the stuff I have got i can't see why a motor cannot be wired up. I was wanting info about the assembly etc of the engine rather than the wiring side of things. Are the valves in the redtop/silver top titanium like the dual Vvti?? cos they don't look it. But can't see why they are wanting soooo much money for them as replacements. TEX

09-09-2006, 06:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 9,266 Thanks: 92 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/100% )	no, the valves in the redtop are not titanium

09-12-2006, 02:33 AM	#20 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 28 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	blacktop = titanium, aparently. and yes the ecu has two plugs that go to body loom, two to engine