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Someone should make a write up of this
Maybe on the beams redtop site, it would help us out alot and save the coherency that is in this thread. |
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Yes, that's a good idea, I've started to sum up... maybe you guys can check it! I'm no native english speaking person, my mother tongue is german, so I may make some mistakes. Please also check if it is technically correct! I'll make a report on my swap. In a few weeks I'll have time and my greytop engine ready So I can do some documentary... I'll be using a phoenix header, 3sgte flywheel with 3sgte pressure plate and a 3sge clutch disk. a s54 gearbox.... maybe we can put such stuff on the redtop site, and do some linking... how to work around certain problems... what ever.The redtop tale The redtop 3SGE not as rare as many people think, it can also be found in cars like the Caldina GT and Rav4, having a grey rocker cover on top of it! Yes, the 3SGE greytop! It's absolutely identical to the redtop engine. The one and only difference is the grey cover and a header with build in catalytic converters. Engine How to build up a "redtop" from a greytop? Change the greytop header to some proper header, you can go for the stock Toyota Header (Part No. ????) or order a Phoenix's Power header from Taka Kaira Inc. Japan (Part No. 76592 5 bolts) Doublecheck this, there is also a 6 bolt header available, be sure your engine has got 5 bolts at the exhaust side. If not, order the 6 bolt version. Depending on the car it was taken out, you may have to change the flywheel also - if it has been an automatic transmission car. Flywheel and Clutch You can use a 3SGTE flywheel and pressure plate. You need to use a clutch disc which fits to the input shaft spline of you gearbox. If you're using a E153 gearbox, you can use the 3SGTE clutch disc, if you're using a S54 or S53 gearbox, you have to use a clutch disc taken from a 2gen or 3gen 3SGE. And of course you can use the 3SGE flywheel and clutch. As the greytop has less power due to it's restrictive header and different programmed ecu, you need to order a redtop ecu (Toyota Part No. 89661-17561) aprox 700$ (as of today). You may also use a ecu for automatic transmission, by pulling down "nsw" neutral switch port to ground. There a few specific parts, depending on your car: SW20 Specific Part Numbers B-Pipe - 17410-7A730 Beams Emblem (red) - 11288-88570 Water Inlet - 16333-88460 Water Inlet Gasket - 90301-40005 *Water Inlet Main (where sensors go) - 16304-88561 *Water Inlet Main - 16341-88460 Wiring Harness (engine) - 82111-17195 ST202 Specific Part Numbers B-Pipe - 17410-7A511 Beams Emblem (grey) - 11288-88560 General Beams Part Numbers Air Flow Meter - 22204-20010 Circuit open relay - 85910-30050 Clutch - 31250-20331 Clutch Cover - 31210-44010 Crank Pulley - 13407-88481 Engine Gasket Kit - 04111-74710 Intake Manifold - 17129-88563 Oil Pan - 12102A-88560 Timing Belt - 13568-80015 Spark Plugs - 90919-01179 Thermostat - 90916-03100 Thermostat Hose - 16321-88460 Throttle Position Sensor - 89452-20130 Valve Cover (red) - 11212-88561 Water Pump - 16100-79225 Last edited by steady; 04-09-2008 at 03:29 PM.. Reason: confused |
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