Phoenix Power Exhaust Manifold

WFX · 02-28-2007, 06:36 AM

I finally found one!!! YIPPEEE!!!

Ive been a member of Taka Kaira for quite sometime now and have repeatly asked them to stock such brands as Phoenix Power and they have finally come through for me!! Ive bought heaps of stuff from these guys in the past and fully support them!

TakaKeira Online

Well it might hurt me in shipping but I'm definately putting one of these babies on order!!

We have a source for exhaust mainifolds we can buy directly off a website now guys, ENJOY!!

mr220v · 02-28-2007, 10:05 AM

Very nice. This is also useful from the perspective of using a Caldina engine for a beams swap, or any other beams motor that came with the catalytic converter in the manifold.

The header is a little pricey, but part of that will be offset by the fact that you won't need custom exhaust work and you can take better advantage of the usually cheaper Caldina engines.

PHOENIX · 02-28-2007, 05:49 PM

Where is it on the site? because i can't find the sw20 head for a 12/97+ 3S-GE.

How much did you pay for it?

bugalu · 02-28-2007, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr220v

Very nice. This is also useful from the perspective of using a Caldina engine for a beams swap, or any other beams motor that came with the catalytic converter in the manifold.

The header is a little pricey, but part of that will be offset by the fact that you won't need custom exhaust work and you can take better advantage of the usually cheaper Caldina engines.

ummm i was always under the impression the stock gen 3 exhaust manifold bolts up to a caldena head. maybe i am wrong.

PHOENIX · 02-28-2007, 07:17 PM

nope, there is no pre-98 manifold that will bolt up to the beams head

WFX · 02-28-2007, 08:34 PM

Yeah its definately not a cheap item but dare say custom in stainless steel would be more unless you got mates! My mates arnt that good to me!

PHOENIX: They havnt put the correct years in there, Ive already confirmed with them and theyre still sorting out the list but if you click on the SW20 for part number 76591 you will see this is for VVTi only. They said this VVTi version is different both in lining up and in design hence why it is VVTi only!

Any got any photos of a TRD or TOMS manifold we can later compare with this Phoenix one?

JDMsw20 · 02-28-2007, 10:46 PM

SWEET Phoneix power also offers Part NO: 76589, Departure II NA Muffler (stainless). Too bad its only one canister, but it says that this muffler set include the 2-1 Center Pipe and the tail muffler after catalizer. I'm so tempted to buy it just for that. My clip did'nt come with that so I have to make a custom sectional piping. Anyone know where I can find a 2-1 flange?

bugalu · 03-01-2007, 12:36 AM

yeah well i feel dumb i did not realize i was posting in the beams forum, i thought he meant caldena 3sgte.... my bad.

PHOENIX · 03-01-2007, 12:58 AM

no worries, it happens a lot to us.

puretone · 03-01-2007, 01:56 AM

wtf i the exhaust ports on the VVTi head match up with 5SFE/3SFE manifolds, i put them side by side and they are the same size as far as bolt patterns and exhaust runners are concerned.....

for 899$ that better be 3mm or thicker 316 quality stainless steel piping & perfectly tig welded by a human being....real expensive IMHO

i have 300$ worth of 48.5mm (3mm wall thickness) 316 stainless steel 90 degree elbows & piping here that im lining up for my future exhaust manifold project....im still looking for an adequate stainless plate of similar 316 or even 304 quality....

WFX · 03-01-2007, 02:15 AM

Yeah its a shame they didnt include the 2-1 piece as a separate item as I would have loved to get that too as it would have the sensor hole with it but looks like I may have to just make a piece up with the same size piping myself!

Anyone know what size piping they use for the extractors? I know the factory ones are quite small and Ive seen these ones on Maikl ride and they look quite decently big!

Maikl on 6GC.NET

puretone · 03-01-2007, 02:26 AM

he talks about "70' custom exhaust sustem " by which i think he means 70mm which is about 2.75 inch, but the runners he uses on his exhaust manifold look su****iously alot like my 48.5mm ones...so say about 52mm outside diameter

just remember, our engines flow gas like a bat outta hell, so yeah bigger runners would help, just so long as you put some sort of back pressure on the exhaust.

WFX: i suggest you do what he did, just as i have, get the 1.3 bar TRD radiator cap, it really does do some magic

im currently making myself a oil catch-can and placing it just where he has it lol

puretone · 03-01-2007, 02:28 AM

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WFX · 03-01-2007, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puretone

WFX: i suggest you do what he did, just as i have, get the 1.3 bar TRD radiator cap, it really does do some magic

I have!

I'm running 2.5inch for my exhaust system, anyone know what the end of the 2-1 comes out at?

puretone · 03-01-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WFX

I have!

I'm running 2.5inch for my exhaust system, anyone know what the end of the 2-1 comes out at?

which end? my flex pipe (oem it looks like) just has a piece of ovalled pipe where the 2 come together...looks like 2 semi halved 2.5inch welded together then its flex pipe and exits at 2.5" which i continued all the way thru (no cat) to the end....

mr220v · 03-01-2007, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puretone

wtf i the exhaust ports on the VVTi head match up with 5SFE/3SFE manifolds, i put them side by side and they are the same size as far as bolt patterns and exhaust runners are concerned.....

You seem pretty certain of this match. I took a 2nd gen 3sge (same as the 1991 5sfe) exhaust manifold and tried to put it on my beams motor. The bolt pattern and port spacing was totally different.

This was a 1991 motor. Did the pattern on the 5s change from 1991 to 1999? What have you tried exactly?

Edophus · 03-01-2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr220v

You seem pretty certain of this match. I took a 2nd gen 3sge (same as the 1991 5sfe) exhaust manifold and tried to put it on my beams motor. The bolt pattern and port spacing was totally different.

This was a 1991 motor. Did the pattern on the 5s change from 1991 to 1999? What have you tried exactly?

I agree, I tried a 2nd gen manifold and its tottally different, it would be cool to know if the 3s-fe or 5s-fe went through a revision at some point and became the same.

As for 2.5 inch exhausts, I beleive I read some posts a while back by maikl in which he was complaining about losing power, changing from 2.5 inch down to 2.25 inch pipework found him the power he'd lost, I personally will be going for a 2.25 inch system, possibly along with the phoenix power manifold if i can afford it.

JDMsw20 · 03-01-2007, 10:07 PM

This is what I have my heart set on Part # 31710

http://www.takakaira.com/asp/templat...NnJkKkfhGielHg

DROOL!

nikk1877 · 03-02-2007, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMsw20

This is what I have my heart set on Part # 31710

http://www.takakaira.com/asp/templat...NnJkKkfhGielHg

DROOL!

Yeah I thought about that kit aswell - As it fits below the inlet manifold, you'd have to cut into the trunk to squeeze some of the plumbing in.

That Phoenix Power manifold is pure sex - I will have to invest in that + the Departure 2 system me thinks!

puretone · 03-02-2007, 07:16 PM

ha what the hell manifold am i looking at then.....weird weird weird

i was running 2.5 inch without resonator for a while which utterly sucked ass...not enough back-pressure or rather no back-pressure...added a vibrant performance 2.5inch resonator & muffler to the thing and gained all my long lost power back!

have any of you ever noticed how the Toyota Altezza code ise SXE10 like Sexy Ten heh, sexy indeed!

02-28-2007, 06:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 337 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Phoenix Power Exhaust Manifold I finally found one!!! YIPPEEE!!! Ive been a member of Taka Kaira for quite sometime now and have repeatly asked them to stock such brands as Phoenix Power and they have finally come through for me!! Ive bought heaps of stuff from these guys in the past and fully support them! TakaKeira Online Well it might hurt me in shipping but I'm definately putting one of these babies on order!! We have a source for exhaust mainifolds we can buy directly off a website now guys, ENJOY!!

02-28-2007, 07:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,919 Thanks: 84 Thanked 260 Times in 197 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	nope, there is no pre-98 manifold that will bolt up to the beams head __________________ - Dave Phoenix is finally back on the road with new suspension pieces, god she feels good!

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02-28-2007, 10:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,795 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	Very nice. This is also useful from the perspective of using a Caldina engine for a beams swap, or any other beams motor that came with the catalytic converter in the manifold. The header is a little pricey, but part of that will be offset by the fact that you won't need custom exhaust work and you can take better advantage of the usually cheaper Caldina engines.

02-28-2007, 05:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,919 Thanks: 84 Thanked 260 Times in 197 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	Where is it on the site? because i can't find the sw20 head for a 12/97+ 3S-GE. How much did you pay for it?

02-28-2007, 08:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 337 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Yeah its definately not a cheap item but dare say custom in stainless steel would be more unless you got mates! My mates arnt that good to me! PHOENIX: They havnt put the correct years in there, Ive already confirmed with them and theyre still sorting out the list but if you click on the SW20 for part number 76591 you will see this is for VVTi only. They said this VVTi version is different both in lining up and in design hence why it is VVTi only! Any got any photos of a TRD or TOMS manifold we can later compare with this Phoenix one?

02-28-2007, 10:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
JDMsw20 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: G-LTDMR2, NY Posts: 144 Thanks: 6 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	SWEET Phoneix power also offers Part NO: 76589, Departure II NA Muffler (stainless). Too bad its only one canister, but it says that this muffler set include the 2-1 Center Pipe and the tail muffler after catalizer. I'm so tempted to buy it just for that. My clip did'nt come with that so I have to make a custom sectional piping. Anyone know where I can find a 2-1 flange?

03-01-2007, 12:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
bugalu i gots great moobs! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SL, UT Posts: 130 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yeah well i feel dumb i did not realize i was posting in the beams forum, i thought he meant caldena 3sgte.... my bad.

03-01-2007, 12:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,919 Thanks: 84 Thanked 260 Times in 197 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	no worries, it happens a lot to us.

03-01-2007, 01:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 1,370 Thanks: 24 Thanked 46 Times in 45 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	wtf i the exhaust ports on the VVTi head match up with 5SFE/3SFE manifolds, i put them side by side and they are the same size as far as bolt patterns and exhaust runners are concerned..... for 899$ that better be 3mm or thicker 316 quality stainless steel piping & perfectly tig welded by a human being....real expensive IMHO i have 300$ worth of 48.5mm (3mm wall thickness) 316 stainless steel 90 degree elbows & piping here that im lining up for my future exhaust manifold project....im still looking for an adequate stainless plate of similar 316 or even 304 quality....

03-01-2007, 02:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 337 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Yeah its a shame they didnt include the 2-1 piece as a separate item as I would have loved to get that too as it would have the sensor hole with it but looks like I may have to just make a piece up with the same size piping myself! Anyone know what size piping they use for the extractors? I know the factory ones are quite small and Ive seen these ones on Maikl ride and they look quite decently big! Maikl on 6GC.NET

03-01-2007, 02:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 1,370 Thanks: 24 Thanked 46 Times in 45 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	he talks about "70' custom exhaust sustem " by which i think he means 70mm which is about 2.75 inch, but the runners he uses on his exhaust manifold look su****iously alot like my 48.5mm ones...so say about 52mm outside diameter just remember, our engines flow gas like a bat outta hell, so yeah bigger runners would help, just so long as you put some sort of back pressure on the exhaust. WFX: i suggest you do what he did, just as i have, get the 1.3 bar TRD radiator cap, it really does do some magic im currently making myself a oil catch-can and placing it just where he has it lol

03-01-2007, 02:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 1,370 Thanks: 24 Thanked 46 Times in 45 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	BY THE WAY Bolt-On Turbo Kit For 3S-GE Engine This is Top Fuel's first product for a Toyota car. This is a bolt-on turbo kit for Toyota's Celica ST202 3S-GE engine series. This turbo kit is created due to Top Fuel's enthusiasm & from numerous requests from fans. This bolt-on turbo kit for Toyota is destined for a commercial success based on Top Fuel's turbo technology & reliability. Due to the turbine development experience & technology gathered from VTEC turbo applications, this turbo kit is specially designed to suit the 3S-GE NA engine. All necessary parts required for the turbo conversion are supplied in this bolt-on turbo kit. http://www.takakaira.com/asp/table.a...SsOpPpkmLnjqMl

03-01-2007, 10:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
JDMsw20 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: G-LTDMR2, NY Posts: 144 Thanks: 6 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	This is what I have my heart set on Part # 31710 http://www.takakaira.com/asp/templat...NnJkKkfhGielHg DROOL!

03-02-2007, 07:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 1,370 Thanks: 24 Thanked 46 Times in 45 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ha what the hell manifold am i looking at then.....weird weird weird i was running 2.5 inch without resonator for a while which utterly sucked ass...not enough back-pressure or rather no back-pressure...added a vibrant performance 2.5inch resonator & muffler to the thing and gained all my long lost power back! have any of you ever noticed how the Toyota Altezza code ise SXE10 like Sexy Ten heh, sexy indeed!