BEAMS Transmission?

[kermitpower]

Hello Mandalay and Puretone I try to explain the problem (my englisch is not perfect)
Iám racing on sand and gravel (puretone autocross dat moet jij kennen als fries) The class iám in is a standard class and the car has to race the way the manufacturor has build the car. Jou only can replace the shokabsorbers and jou have to weld in a saftycage.Everybody drives a car with much horsepower (opel astra 150 bhp honda civic type r 200bhp citroen zx 180 bhp enz) The rules say that jou cannot have a lsd dif,so if its standard in the car jou cannot drive with it. Also need the transmision and the enigine be standard and belong togetter so if the lsd is standard in the car i cannot use the beams engine.The tecnical commision won't let me race because the rules say so.
If only one sw20 with beams engine is build without lsd i can race. I dont have a vin number because my car is a normal sw 20 156 bhp. Iám hoping jou can help me

grts from holland kermit power

[MANDALAY]

LSD is an option

[mr2mkii]

Originally Posted by kermitpower

Hello Mandalay and Puretone I try to explain the problem (my englisch is not perfect)
Iám racing on sand and gravel (puretone autocross dat moet jij kennen als fries) The class iám in is a standard class and the car has to race the way the manufacturor has build the car. Jou only can replace the shokabsorbers and jou have to weld in a saftycage.Everybody drives a car with much horsepower (opel astra 150 bhp honda civic type r 200bhp citroen zx 180 bhp enz) The rules say that jou cannot have a lsd dif,so if its standard in the car jou cannot drive with it. Also need the transmision and the enigine be standard and belong togetter so if the lsd is standard in the car i cannot use the beams engine.The tecnical commision won't let me race because the rules say so.
If only one sw20 with beams engine is build without lsd i can race. I dont have a vin number because my car is a normal sw 20 156 bhp. Iám hoping jou can help me

grts from holland kermit power

If you can race a beams engine that came with a standard transmission and NO LSD.. simply use your s54 transmission from your actual 3sge 156hp engine... it will bolt on without any problem... I did it the first year I installed my beams and will do it this year too...

both 3sge beams and other 3sge came with a s54 transmission... beams only had the LSD as an option... they are the same transmission..

[MANDALAY]

^ 100 % CORRECT. In Australia we only got the 3SGE N/A . LSD was only an option. All cars were fitted with the S54

[kermitpower]

Thanks for all jour great information I now that i can bolt on the s54 transmission but i need documents that say that the lsd is a option The rules here are that jou need documents about the option lsd. Please help me with this problem otherwise i can't race with it.

grts from holland

[MANDALAY]

The chances of you finding a Japanese brochure that is 10 years old outlining the options available are 2 fold, buckleys and none ( sorry Aussie slang )
I think i have one for Australia but it will not be a beams as Japan only got it.
Mind you l did see one for sale a year ago on MR trader

[puretone]

Originally Posted by kermitpower

Thanks for all jour great information I now that i can bolt on the s54 transmission but i need documents that say that the lsd is a option The rules here are that jou need documents about the option lsd. Please help me with this problem otherwise i can't race with it.

grts from holland

Zeg denk je dat je misschien die lui niet kan ompraten dat je de trans van een oude Gen2 of Gen3 3S-GE motor gebruikt die dan niet LSD is? Daar zou je de papieren van kunnen tonen lijkt mij. MR2's met de Euro 3S-GE waren er toch best veel....zou je kunnen tonen met de kenmerk/nummers van de trans, die staan er altijd op gedrukt. De motor aan de andere kant zou misschien wat moeilijker zijn....ik heb b.v. mijn plakaat van onder de motorkap waar de hele reutemeteut op staat uit de oorspronkelijke auto gesloopt en gebruik die nu voor verzekering etc.
Er staat dan mooi VIN # 1998 ST202-BLMZF SS3 3SGE 2000CC bijvoorbeeld. Van daaruit kan je dan afleiden uit de Toyota Winkel van Sinkel als er een LSD in zat of niet tevens....

Zo 99.9% van de lui die de BEAMS motor in hun MR2/Celica/Caldina/RAV4 hadden, hebben hem gelijk met de optie LSD gedaan, en waarom niet, was misschien niet eens 50.000 yen meer als niet minder. Sport wagen zonder LSD is net als Ford Ka met schaatsen, alhoewel dat in Fryslan best mee zou vallen.

Kijk anders ff rond met die regels idiooten als je misschien mee mag doen met een oudere 3S-GE sans LSD gekoppeld aan je BEAMS motor. Van die twee kan je tenminste alles tonen aan papieren.
De PDF's die ik heb staat alles in Jappen-spreek figuurtjes en ietwat van LSD, maar dus niet "optional Limited Slip Differential" ofzo, lijkt erop als dat het wel is maar staat dus in japans.


edit: Verrekte gaaf dat autocrossen, zou het alleen niet met zo'n mooie MR2 & BEAMS motor doen , klap er zo'n maffe 3SGTE in, en dan in een oude AW11 MR2 eerder, of misschien zelfs zo'n econo-doos corolla...

[puretone]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

Are you speaking Dutch ?

MAN the saying goes never trust the Dutch

OY!! EASY!!


hehehehe don't trust Dutch Warf businessmen....I'm only fake-ish Dutch, born outside of the country and hardly ever been, one of my parentals is from the north, which according to them isn't even Dutch but Frisian, a far superior people from the north of The Netherlands, but don't say that to any common dutch folks, they won't like it.

[kermitpower]

Puretone De mr2 sw20 is zo mega geschikt voor autocross Dat loopt als een speer
Dit is ook de reden dat de beams erin komt omdat hij standaard 200 pk heeft.
Ik moet dus ook echt een bewijs op papier hebben dat de sper een optie is ook al is er maar 1 zonder geleverd. Het maakt niet uit in welke taal of wat dan ook,ik kan alles zeer goed gebruiken.Dat stukje over friezen zal ik maar vergeten,wij hier in de achterhoek zeggen altijd friesland eraf steken en vol laten lopen met water.haha
Mandalay do jou have a brochure about the beams/lsd I doen't matter how the car is build If only i got proof that lsd is a option.I cannot bolt on a s54 transmission because ist only allowd when the lsd is standard.Can i buy the brochure Thanks for all jour information

grt kermitpower

[puretone]

Originally Posted by kermitpower

Dat stukje over friezen zal ik maar vergeten,wij hier in de achterhoek zeggen altijd friesland eraf steken en vol laten lopen met water.haha

grt kermitpower

HAHAHAHAHAH FRIES PASPOORT!!! Mijn ma stond erbij toen die studenten lui de dijk hadden afgesloten voor "Fries paspoort controle"

[puretone]

Originally Posted by kermitpower

Puretone De mr2 sw20 is zo mega geschikt voor autocross Dat loopt als een speer
Dit is ook de reden dat de beams erin komt omdat hij standaard 200 pk heeft.
Ik moet dus ook echt een bewijs op papier hebben dat de sper een optie is ook al is er maar 1 zonder geleverd. Het maakt niet uit in welke taal of wat dan ook,ik kan alles zeer goed gebruiken.Dat stukje over friezen zal ik maar vergeten,wij hier in de achterhoek zeggen altijd friesland eraf steken en vol laten lopen met water.haha
Mandalay do jou have a brochure about the beams/lsd I doen't matter how the car is build If only i got proof that lsd is a option.I cannot bolt on a s54 transmission because ist only allowd when the lsd is standard.Can i buy the brochure Thanks for all jour information

grt kermitpower

Alright.

BOARD MEMBERS:

Dig up any PDF, JPG or any other crap we can dig up about the MR2 G-Limited (& other MR2's with BEAMS), Celica SSIII's that state anything "LSD" even if it's in Jap-Speak. I'll go look myself, let's see if anyone else can find any......MANDALAY? Roman? Phoenix? Anyone?

[MANDALAY]

OK ,
1.Yes RED BULL does come in bottles also !
2. The are my working adidas's so i wont clean them
3. IF YOU WANT THE INFO PROMISE YOU WONT ASK " IS IT FINISHED" FOR 4 WEEKS

Contacted Toyota and they emailed me the sales brochure for the last model 1999.
So past on an email address for me and also attach it on the forum

[Jason.MZW20]

Originally Posted by SpeedySix

I know with the 3rd gen 3sge the transmission made the car a lot slower, is that same transmission in the BEAMS MR2?

That's a bit of misinformation there.

JDM 3SGE S54s used a 4.176 differential ratio for all years (same as the 5SFE).
Euro 3SGE S54s used a 3.944 differential ratio for available Euro spec years, except the BEAMS.

[Lion_HUN]

Originally Posted by Jason.MZW20

That's a bit of misinformation there.

JDM 3SGE S54s used a 4.176 differential ratio for all years (same as the 5SFE).
Euro 3SGE S54s used a 3.944 differential ratio for available Euro spec years, except the BEAMS.

Hmm. Could this cause a higher reading in speed than actual speed if we installed the BEAMS in EU cars?

[pasqual]

Originally Posted by puretone

What he needs is something that states his MR2 with RedTop did not come with an LSD, which I suspect it did. The issue here being that the Dutch racetrack officials do not allow an LSD in this particular category he's running in. Cracking the trannie open and removing the LSD somehow and/or placing an older S54 or E153 in there that is sans LSD would be a way to go I guess.
Now those racetrack lame-o's seem to not know about the BEAMS engine altogether, just because it was never offered in Europe. Our manuals are all in Jap-speak so I'm thinking that won't do them much good either.

Anyone else got some obscure info on this at all? I mean about the LSD being in there or removing it?

kermitpower if you dont need your LSD-gearbox and want replaced to S54(Non-LSD) I think I can help You .
Im located in europe/CZ

[puretone]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

OK ,
1.Yes RED BULL does come in bottles also !
2. The are my working adidas's so i wont clean them
3. IF YOU WANT THE INFO PROMISE YOU WONT ASK " IS IT FINISHED" FOR 4 WEEKS

Contacted Toyota and they emailed me the sales brochure for the last model 1999.
So past on an email address for me and also attach it on the forum

Looks like you had a bit more Vodka than Redbull.....wrong thread MANDALAY-O


now that we are in this thread.....is it done yet????

[MANDALAY]

PM your email address

[kermitpower]

Pasqual i only need documents that say lsd is a option.Tanks for jour help

grt kermitpower

[MANDALAY]

Sent.
As you can see there was 2 models. One lower spec and one higher spec
Higher spec had LSD , Leather, center console and spot lights.
That acounted for a $10,000 higher price. What a lot of ###t. Total price on the road was $65,000 Aussie

[kermitpower]

Mandalay thanks for the document but do jou now if its about the beams engine ???
It's about a 125 kw engine and the beams is 147 kw

grts kermitpower