beams and Nos

[oldsoul45]

Hi ...did a search and turned up nothing...is there anyone with expedience of using nitrous on the red-top beams..I have at hand a complete wet kit
with controller and would like some input before i fit it

best regards

[Servin]

I dont think anyone has but I'll admit I have been throwing around the idea. Nothing extreme at most a 75 shot.

[PHOENIX]

I would start with a low shot like 35 or 50 and personally try it out on a dyno with a tuner around checking the AFR constantly.

[mr.ac]

ah.. the cheater gas!! try a small shot then and hear for any loud bangs!!

[94MR2]

Beams + nitrous would be an awesome combo wide powerband plus closer to 250whp humm that sounds amazing

[MR2 Drifter]

Like phoenix said, start with a small shot at a dyno place so they can check if its safe otherwise your going to blow your motor

[oldsoul45]

Thanks guys...going 50 shot and fitting AFM along with cool plugs.
I think i have to do this..know some guys who run nos on gen5's
running at 100 and 125 shot..so going to talk to them..will post my findings

[PHOENIX]

Be careful!

Parts will be difficult to find is something goes bad

[assassin10000]

Originally Posted by oldsoul45

Thanks guys...going 50 shot and fitting AFM along with cool plugs.
I think i have to do this..know some guys who run nos on gen5's
running at 100 and 125 shot..so going to talk to them..will post my findings

100 & 125 shot is a LOT of juice on a 2l 4cyl motor. You've got to remember, stock internals can only handle 'so-much' additional power/stress before things go south really fast. With a power adder like NO2 it'll be fine one minute & melted pistons/bent rod the next...

Just cause someone else got away with a 125 shot... doesn't mean your motor will.

While a wet shot is 'safer' for the motor when setup right, it actually shouldn't need ANY 'AFM' (assuming you mean air flow meter/MAF) mods if you have the right jets selected. 1 or 2 stage colder plugs is a good idea, if you do a lot of daily driving keep an eye on them and make sure your not fouling them during normal driving.

Start with a 50 shot, believe me a gain of 25% more hp instantaneously is a big difference. Move up to a 75 or 100 if it's not enough. (100 would be the 'max' I'd recommend for an unmodified motor, 125-150 is really pushing it too hard IMO).


I'm talking about experience I've had dealing with NO2 in the 'drag race' scene and honda's. A friend of mine whose car we installed a wet 100 shot on his h22 (2.2) ran awesome, no problems. Another guy we know put a 125-150, instantaneous death happened to his motor.

Andrew

[Roman]

Heh yeah it's something I've halfway thought about.

Isnt the main problem is that ideally you need to change the amount of ignition advance to accomodate it?

Although either way, since I'm going with quads it would be pretty tricky to setup right regardless.

[oldsoul45]

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

Be careful!

Parts will be difficult to find is something goes bad

that is my main worry....and I've got to say it's got me thinking.
the kit is a wet kit..direct port 50 shot...aggreed a price with the guy.
just making the final move to fit it thanks for all the input guys

[Servin]

I think you will be fine, the general rule of thumb is to never use more than half of your HP in nitrous.

[PHOENIX]

Yeah, wet is the safest and direct port is the most efficient. You "should" be fine with a 50 shot.

[oldsoul45]

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

Yeah, wet is the safest and direct port is the most efficient. You "should" be fine with a 50 shot.

lol "Should"

[PHOENIX]

I need a disclaimer.

"I am not responsible if you blow the piss out of your engine for my personal knowledge and enjoyment. Be sure to post the results though so I don't do the same thing."

[assassin10000]

Originally Posted by Roman

Isnt the main problem is that ideally you need to change the amount of ignition advance to accomodate it?

Although either way, since I'm going with quads it would be pretty tricky to setup right regardless.

No change to timing is necessary... not unless your tuning it on the dyno and plan to use 150+ shot on a built motor.

The only difference in doing it with quads would be having to plumb 4 individual 'direct shot' nitrous/fuel jet's to match each runner. T3, when they were sponsoring 'Al' had that setup on the silvertop motor in the 'orange coupe'.

Andrew

[oldsoul45]

Jezzz the amout of horror stories I've been told since wanting to fit
the Nos....could well whimp out yet ...going round to the guys house tommorrow to look at the kit..he knows I'm not 100% sure so I'm not
messing him about...will keep you posted

[cps_goodbuy]

whats this wetkit setting you back if you don't mind me asking? oh and does it have all the safety percs included, if not, I'd definitely enlist a pro for setting up

[puretone]

just think what a 100+ shot of nitrous would do to engine parts because it's such a sudden kick in the pants....25 or 50 should be a fun push every now and again...some NGK V Power R5671A-8 plugs would be nice....

[YELLOW_MR2]

Originally Posted by oldsoul45

Hi ...did a search and turned up nothing...is there anyone with expedience of using nitrous on the red-top beams..I have at hand a complete wet kit
with controller and would like some input before i fit it

best regards

Hey im still in a learning proccess and i was wondering if you can inform me on what are beams??