beams redtop turbo

[MANDALAY]

46 in 2 weeks time.

[oldsoul45]

Originally Posted by puretone

Nominating you #1 senior member of this BEAMS board.....I *think* most of us are young-guns here......
I applaud you for not going the Corvette/American V8 route for your midlife crisis

hey no crisis here...just playing with my toys

[oldsoul45]

so update...the project has grown...just bought a set of custon pistons for the redtop and I'm now going custon ecu...now looking to get 280bhp,going for a smic,bov etc...keep you posted

[MANDALAY]

Im going to get my pistons ordered this week also.
What C/R did you go for ?
Have you rebored your block ? If so did they remeasure the cylinder walls before making the pistons ?
What rings are you using ?
Also cant tell from photo ( unwrap one man ) did they just remove material from top centre ?
Also did they supply the gungon pin and is it shorter in length .
A side by side photo would be great.
PM me is you need any torque spec's

[MANDALAY]

Stick to the OEM setup for the BOV , thats was ive come to the conclusion after reading sooooooooo much

[puretone]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

Also did they supply the gungon pin and is it shorter in length

what the heck is "gungon" ??


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH SHINY SHINIES!!!1

OEM BOV might be easier than routing BOV ---> turbo inlet on your own, remember if you will be using MAF you will need to route the BOV outflow ahead of the MAF.
Custom ECU indicates you will most likely be using MAP....in which case you can get a 'Super Sound' BOV & get more chicks than MANDALAY will ever have because Spooling & BOV noises gets you all the ladies.


Honda Type-R gets you nothing.


Win.


All hail BEAMS-tron.

[oldsoul45]

Originally Posted by puretone

what the heck is "gungon" ??


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH SHINY SHINIES!!!1

OEM BOV might be easier than routing BOV ---> turbo inlet on your own, remember if you will be using MAF you will need to route the BOV outflow ahead of the MAF.
Custom ECU indicates you will most likely be using MAP....in which case you can get a 'Super Sound' BOV & get more chicks than MANDALAY will ever have because Spooling & BOV noises gets you all the ladies.


Honda Type-R gets you nothing.


Win.


All hail BEAMS-tron.

thinks it's gudgon pin and mine are 9:1 compression ration with an 86.5mm bore

[nailmonkey]

Originally Posted by oldsoul45

thinks it's gudgon pin and mine are 9:1 compression ration with an 86.5mm bore

It's looking good!

You're probably going to need bigger injectors as well for that kind of power but you could probably get away with some 3sgte ones so either 440 or 550, but ultimately you just map until you run out of fuel. Are they beams specific pistons or 3sgte?

Regards,

Nik

[MANDALAY]

^ yeh what process did you undertake in ordering the pistons ?
If you start getting really technical which im anal about ( being a chemist )
Silicon content of the pistons need to be taken into consideration when deciding clearances.
Why 9.0 and not 9.5 like Phoenix,

[oldsoul45]

Originally Posted by nailmonkey

It's looking good!

You're probably going to need bigger injectors as well for that kind of power but you could probably get away with some 3sgte ones so either 440 or 550, but ultimately you just map until you run out of fuel. Are they beams specific pistons or 3sgte?

Regards,

Nik

these are 3sge rev 4 specific..been looking at sone 3sgte injectors tonght

[oldsoul45]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

^ yeh what process did you undertake in ordering the pistons ?
If you start getting really technical which im anal about ( being a chemist )
Silicon content of the pistons need to be taken into consideration when deciding clearances.
Why 9.0 and not 9.5 like Phoenix,

these are off Phoenix..tell him Dave

[MANDALAY]

? thought Dave 's were 9.5 ?
Ive bought SARD 550 cc's . They are exactly the same as the Red Top's only bigger volume , bigger openings but the same number. BTW the Caldina Turbo ST246 has the same injectors so you might want to see if you can find some second's if you like

[1991turbomr2]

cool beams turbo videos

YouTube - 3sge beams turbo

YouTube - SXE10 Toyota Altezza 3SGE BEAMS ENGINE

[PHOENIX]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

? thought Dave 's were 9.5 ?
Ive bought SARD 550 cc's . They are exactly the same as the Red Top's only bigger volume , bigger openings but the same number. BTW the Caldina Turbo ST246 has the same injectors so you might want to see if you can find some second's if you like

When I initially made the order, I put 9.0 comp and then I changed my mind after a few days to go with 9.5 comp. Well they emailed me and said sure no problem and then when I got them in they were 9.0 with a note in there saying they didn't get the memo in time for the change so they are 9.0. comp.

Hence why I sold them

Actually I am considering a 10 comp for my turbo setup but I want to do some more research before doing that. I still want to retain my low end and I am not looking for a dyno queen high horsepower turbo setup, I want a well balanced machine even if that means losing a little top end with the turbo and keeping a good bottom end.

So yeah, I think it was worth it to sell them and lose a few bucks to get what I really want.

Just FYI, I am doing a few things this summer with my car so I won't be doing the swap just yet, but I am still slowly putting it together. Should start the swap after I get all the pieces in October when I have settled down a little bit (i am wanting to do a few road rally's this summer). a 2100 square foot shop is in the works right now on my parents land so I am kinda waiting on that too. (sorry for thread jacking)

[MANDALAY]

^ no thread jacking at all.
Nice to see you chim in
Miss you buddy !

[puretone]

Guys, maybe go LOW impedance on the injectors, they tend to be more precise, VERY VERY IMPORTANT, especially if you are an ANAL-CHEMIST like say.....MANDALAY...

get FJO Racing Products - Injection Driver to drive low impedance RC Eng injectors.
Can any of you race-car guys chime in on this? I keep hearing low impedance > high impedance.

Soooo 'gudgon pin' is the wrist-pin on the piston I assume?

Hey MANDALAY, Si content, really??? That's what is keeping you from finishing??? Really?! How about tuning the engine, whatever pistons, right and not blowing it up on first run.....wouldn't you wanna worry more about that than the Si content on a piston???? LOL!
I get it though, different Si content as in any other element will cause a difference in expansion rate....don't sweat that too much.
I majored in Chem & Mech engineering and I am no where near that anal LOL!!

[Servin]

I would be worried about having honda content in my parts too!

[puretone]

Originally Posted by 1991turbomr2

cool beams turbo videos

YouTube - 3sge beams turbo

what turbo manifold is that? Looks like snake-pit. I can't recall the exact shape/look of our RedTop exhaust manifolds, but it's not like that is it?

[mr2mkii]

Originally Posted by oldsoul45

got it given of a very good friend who sold me his beams engine..

I guess that you friend is named Ian, that he lives in the highlands in scotland and the setup you got from him consist of mitsubishi td05 20G turbo, stainless oil feed and oil return line, custom manifold (with poor welding skills), 2.5'' custom dowpipe, HKS external wastegate and screamer pipe

isn't it?

[oldsoul45]

Originally Posted by mr2mkii

I guess that you friend is named Ian, that he lives in the highlands in scotland and the setup you got from him consist of mitsubishi td05 20G turbo, stainless oil feed and oil return line, custom manifold (with poor welding skills), 2.5'' custom dowpipe, HKS external wastegate and screamer pipe

isn't it?

Almost spot on...it's a td06 that is being changed to a td05,internal wastegate and moding the manifold to suit...the welding isn't pretty but that can be dressed