Low power BEAMS

MANDALAY · 06-20-2009, 11:57 PM

Just out of curiosity you guys that have done swaps and especially those with lower power have you all checked to see the filter that is used before the VVTi mechanism is not blocked ? Its very small about an inch by half inch

Roman · 06-21-2009, 01:57 AM

Is that in the pulley?

Celica RA45 · 06-21-2009, 02:12 AM

no dave its under the no 1 and 2 cam bearing caps for both inlet and exhaust
usually ok as it is filtered oil any way going to it
yesterday with wayno s motor i had to drive back from kensington to ringwood and back as his vvti oil solinoid was cactus there was power but not to it so it must have **** it self over at his place in wa as he has done 2 dyno runs 1st with 172hp and then later at a dyno day 140 hp
we could only get 145 kws up to 7500 rpm yesterday till i put a new 1 in then a full retune with the cam moving agian up to 175kws at 8600 rpm

MANDALAY · 06-21-2009, 03:01 AM

There you go

Just thought of it while i was doing a stock yae on my new parts for my new block.

Roman · 06-21-2009, 03:23 AM

Aahhh okay, interesting!

Mine should be all good I hope, given that I had the head reconditioned...

mr2mkii · 06-21-2009, 09:33 PM

maybe a picture of it woule be helpful

never had the idea to take a look at it... I'd be more then happy to see what it looks like

Celica RA45 · 06-22-2009, 05:52 AM

you need to check the oil control valve or oil solinoid as this is the 1st 1 we have had a problem with ,and it makes a big difference

MANDALAY · 06-22-2009, 06:04 AM

Remember guys, it is only one inch in length

Lion_HUN · 06-22-2009, 09:22 AM

How can it be accessed? Can it be cleaned if dirty or need to be replaced?

pasqual · 06-22-2009, 01:16 PM

15678-74010

MANDALAY · 06-22-2009, 04:41 PM

No its not accessable unless yo have taken the head off.This is what i fear,that most of you havent , or if you have you havent checked it.

Lion_HUN · 06-22-2009, 04:48 PM

I haven't indeed. I hope it's in good condition :S

Celica RA45 · 06-23-2009, 01:16 AM

even waynos motor that was dirty as hell and done a lot of kays was clean angolo you are making it out that this is a problem ,which it aint
its better to check the vvti oil solinoid

MANDALAY · 06-23-2009, 05:16 AM

Gleen would not even suggest that. Im purely pointing it out just in case our members dont even know that it exists. Having bought every part to the engine once before and buying that part again made me wonder whether that could be an issue and possibly over looked.
Thats all.
I dont consider myself a Beams expert at all. I rely on other members help and hopefully i can help others.

Roman · 06-23-2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

No its not accessable unless yo have taken the head off.This is what i fear,that most of you havent , or if you have you havent checked it.

Surely you just need to take the cam cover off to get at it, not head fully off? Although I think it's important to do up or undo all of the cam caps in sequence, part turn at a time?

MANDALAY · 06-23-2009, 03:53 PM

True Roman. But the cams have to come off and also if i remember correctly that front section has the black silicon.
Just pointing it out for those who just installed their engine without taking it apart.
It was one of the first items that was going to be replaced when i opened up my SRK clip before i just ditched the clip. One of many items that was crap due to the very long time this clip was in the yard standing

06-20-2009, 11:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,793 Thanks: 88 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Low power BEAMS Just out of curiosity you guys that have done swaps and especially those with lower power have you all checked to see the filter that is used before the VVTi mechanism is not blocked ? Its very small about an inch by half inch

06-22-2009, 06:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,793 Thanks: 88 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Remember guys, it is only one inch in length Last edited by MANDALAY; 06-22-2009 at 04:41 PM.

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pasqual Beams Owners Group Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BRNO/CZ Posts: 121 Thanks: 4 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	15678-74010 Last edited by pasqual; 06-22-2009 at 01:24 PM.

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06-21-2009, 01:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 702 Thanks: 23 Thanked 49 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Is that in the pulley?

06-21-2009, 02:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 334 Thanks: 0 Thanked 33 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	no dave its under the no 1 and 2 cam bearing caps for both inlet and exhaust usually ok as it is filtered oil any way going to it yesterday with wayno s motor i had to drive back from kensington to ringwood and back as his vvti oil solinoid was cactus there was power but not to it so it must have **** it self over at his place in wa as he has done 2 dyno runs 1st with 172hp and then later at a dyno day 140 hp we could only get 145 kws up to 7500 rpm yesterday till i put a new 1 in then a full retune with the cam moving agian up to 175kws at 8600 rpm

06-21-2009, 03:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,793 Thanks: 88 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	There you go Just thought of it while i was doing a stock yae on my new parts for my new block.

06-21-2009, 03:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 702 Thanks: 23 Thanked 49 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Aahhh okay, interesting! Mine should be all good I hope, given that I had the head reconditioned...

06-21-2009, 09:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
mr2mkii Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Laval, Qc, Canada Posts: 320 Thanks: 8 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	maybe a picture of it woule be helpful never had the idea to take a look at it... I'd be more then happy to see what it looks like

06-22-2009, 05:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 334 Thanks: 0 Thanked 33 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	you need to check the oil control valve or oil solinoid as this is the 1st 1 we have had a problem with ,and it makes a big difference

06-22-2009, 09:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lion_HUN Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hungary Posts: 249 Thanks: 9 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	How can it be accessed? Can it be cleaned if dirty or need to be replaced?

06-22-2009, 04:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,793 Thanks: 88 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	No its not accessable unless yo have taken the head off.This is what i fear,that most of you havent , or if you have you havent checked it.

06-22-2009, 04:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lion_HUN Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hungary Posts: 249 Thanks: 9 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I haven't indeed. I hope it's in good condition :S

06-23-2009, 01:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
Celica RA45 Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunny australia Posts: 334 Thanks: 0 Thanked 33 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	even waynos motor that was dirty as hell and done a lot of kays was clean angolo you are making it out that this is a problem ,which it aint its better to check the vvti oil solinoid

06-23-2009, 05:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,793 Thanks: 88 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Gleen would not even suggest that. Im purely pointing it out just in case our members dont even know that it exists. Having bought every part to the engine once before and buying that part again made me wonder whether that could be an issue and possibly over looked. Thats all. I dont consider myself a Beams expert at all. I rely on other members help and hopefully i can help others.

06-23-2009, 03:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,793 Thanks: 88 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	True Roman. But the cams have to come off and also if i remember correctly that front section has the black silicon. Just pointing it out for those who just installed their engine without taking it apart. It was one of the first items that was going to be replaced when i opened up my SRK clip before i just ditched the clip. One of many items that was crap due to the very long time this clip was in the yard standing