Sacrilege!!!

Roman · 08-10-2009, 02:46 AM

What's wrong with this picture?

PHOENIX · 08-10-2009, 02:53 AM

Yeah but how?

WFX · 08-10-2009, 02:59 AM

Is their any real benefit in doing that? Like do the bell housings make that much difference or is it to do with something else?

Roman · 08-10-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PHOENIX

Yeah but how?

With a fair bit of mucking around.

Had to weld some new tabs on the manifold at the bottom, and reshape the ports, drill some new holes, blah blah. Few hours work I guess.

Also grind out some recesses for where the injectors go, which are obviously on a different angle to beams head.

Not too sure how well it goes yet, cos I need some new spark plug leads, and the cam cover gasket is leaking

Is on a gen 2 3SGE.

Roman · 08-10-2009, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WFX

Is their any real benefit in doing that? Like do the bell housings make that much difference or is it to do with something else?

The gen 2 manifold is a massive cast alumium piece, which bolts to the top of the head... it heatsoaks like crazy!

Peaople go on about cold air intakes, but what good is this, if your manifold is 80 degrees celcius! lol!

Beams motor has rubber isolater from the block at the base, and the mounting tabs at the top are rubber insulated too. So stays way WAY cooler, and the manifold is a much more efficient design.

ACIS is a nice feature, but dunno if it outweighs the downsides on the whole.

Either way, this cost me about $60 NZD in total to do, as I already had the manifold etc lying around.

Did it for curiositys sake as much as anything else, I guess.

MANDALAY · 08-10-2009, 03:17 AM

Nah not Sacrilege
BUT WHAT IS SACRILEGE IS TOYOTA MAKING AN AUTO MR2 !!

Roman · 08-10-2009, 03:32 AM

The auto is actually surprisingly... not bad.

It's atrociously awful when you drive it in 'D' but if you set it in manual, and keep it in 1st 2nd or 3rd as required, it's actually quite responsive.

Will be interesting to see how it goes on the track.

After driving it for a bit, I dont think it's going to be as much of a disadvantage as I first thought it would be.

Am also gonna have some semislicks this time around... My beams car kept overheating street tires, is what was holding it back from quicker times

Also fitted up the beams muffler and a decat pipe, cos I had them laying around gathering dust/insects/etc.

puretone · 08-10-2009, 02:42 PM

LOL is that a Super Rare Cold Air Duct from SARD that SRK is selling??

mr220v · 08-10-2009, 03:27 PM

I would have thought it would be easier to use a gen1 3sge manifold. I'm sure the beams manifold is better, but if the only object is to get everything off the top of the head, the gen1 just bolts up I believe.

Roman · 08-10-2009, 04:40 PM

Yep, no doubting that it would have been easier...

Used the beams manifold cos I had it lying around though.

And no SRK special intake unfortunately, just some air conditioning ducting, haha.

MR JAS · 08-10-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman

The gen 2 manifold is a massive cast alumium piece, which bolts to the top of the head... it heatsoaks like crazy!

Peaople go on about cold air intakes, but what good is this, if your manifold is 80 degrees celcius! lol!

the stock manifold only heatsoaks when its sitting still not running
while its running the flowing air keeps it cool

only slight advantages could be gain by using phenolic gaskets on all the mounting tabs

i think youe set up will look over 9000 times better if you paint the rocker cover red to match and clean up the engine bay

Roman · 08-11-2009, 07:49 PM

I've taken the car for a quick run and then checked intake manifold temps with standard one, always hot. Especially with the 'coolant' lines running through the throttle body!

Yeah definitely needs a clean up, Over the last few days working in the engine bay, I've had several people mistake me for the Captain of the Exxon Valdez.

Will most likely paint the whole lot black or something if anything, rather than red.

puretone · 08-11-2009, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman

I've taken the car for a quick run and then checked intake manifold temps with standard one, always hot. Especially with the 'coolant' lines running through the throttle body!

Yeah definitely needs a clean up, Over the last few days working in the engine bay, I've had several people mistake me for the Captain of the Exxon Valdez.

Will most likely paint the whole lot black or something if anything, rather than red.

You were drunk & asleep at the wheel when you hit the one single tree along the road?

08-10-2009, 02:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 713 Thanks: 23 Thanked 49 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Sacrilege!!! What's wrong with this picture?

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PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,915 Thanks: 84 Thanked 260 Times in 197 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	Yeah but how? __________________ - Dave Phoenix is finally back on the road with new suspension pieces, god she feels good!

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WFX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 337 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Is their any real benefit in doing that? Like do the bell housings make that much difference or is it to do with something else?

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MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,830 Thanks: 88 Thanked 64 Times in 60 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Nah not Sacrilege BUT WHAT IS SACRILEGE IS TOYOTA MAKING AN AUTO MR2 !!

08-10-2009, 03:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 713 Thanks: 23 Thanked 49 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	The auto is actually surprisingly... not bad. It's atrociously awful when you drive it in 'D' but if you set it in manual, and keep it in 1st 2nd or 3rd as required, it's actually quite responsive. Will be interesting to see how it goes on the track. After driving it for a bit, I dont think it's going to be as much of a disadvantage as I first thought it would be. Am also gonna have some semislicks this time around... My beams car kept overheating street tires, is what was holding it back from quicker times Also fitted up the beams muffler and a decat pipe, cos I had them laying around gathering dust/insects/etc.

08-10-2009, 02:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
puretone Beams Owners Group Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aruba, #1 BEAMS Engine on the Island Posts: 1,352 Thanks: 24 Thanked 46 Times in 45 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	LOL is that a Super Rare Cold Air Duct from SARD that SRK is selling??

08-10-2009, 03:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 13 Thanked 139 Times in 117 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	I would have thought it would be easier to use a gen1 3sge manifold. I'm sure the beams manifold is better, but if the only object is to get everything off the top of the head, the gen1 just bolts up I believe.

08-10-2009, 04:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 713 Thanks: 23 Thanked 49 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Yep, no doubting that it would have been easier... Used the beams manifold cos I had it lying around though. And no SRK special intake unfortunately, just some air conditioning ducting, haha.

08-11-2009, 07:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Roman Beams OCD Support Group Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 713 Thanks: 23 Thanked 49 Times in 30 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I've taken the car for a quick run and then checked intake manifold temps with standard one, always hot. Especially with the 'coolant' lines running through the throttle body! Yeah definitely needs a clean up, Over the last few days working in the engine bay, I've had several people mistake me for the Captain of the Exxon Valdez. Will most likely paint the whole lot black or something if anything, rather than red.