Brakes

CalusaCustomConcepts · 01-21-2008, 10:24 PM

I just purchased my first deuce. A sweet, one-owner '86 you might have seen on eBay last week. The owner was local and didn't know what she had. (I appologize to all the guys I stole this thing from

)

I've been scanning the forums for a few years with the intention of building my dream 2, and the day has finally come.

Question: What are the brake upgrade options? I've read of putting '87-'89 brakes on the early models. But I think I've seen something about RX-7 calipers.....can someone clue me in on the benefits/headaches of the available options?

Ultimately, she's getting an aluminum V6 w/VVTi, but I want to start with the easy stuff, so I can drive her and get a feel for the differences as they come to fruition. Thanks in advance for your advice.

Oteck · 01-22-2008, 07:50 AM

it's hard to upgrade car with a 4lug, theres not much option on larger rotors

CalusaCustomConcepts · 01-22-2008, 08:54 PM

I've seen the custom GT-R article from Paul Woods. But it requires 16 inch wheels. I'm thinking I'll prefer 15's for the sidewall height.

Anyone?

Oteck · 01-22-2008, 08:57 PM

you can try mounting 94t calipers... ive been told the rears bolt in

SteveAW11 · 01-31-2008, 11:21 AM

The 87+ calipers and rotors will do you fine especially with a good set of pads.
When you get this V6 in then you could look to bigger, like custom Wilwood setup or something.

Heres some good reading for bigger brake options:
MR2 Owners Club Message Board&#8482
MR2 Owners Club Message Board&#8482
MR2 Owners Club Message Board&#8482

blakecj7 · 02-21-2008, 01:01 AM

I would go with the 87+ upgrade with good pads first, then if you think you need more here are two upgrades to check out.
The first is just a bigger front calipers.
1986 MR2 AW11 Chassis, Suspension & Braking modifications
The second is huge upgrade, but takes some fabricating.
Bigbrakes

blown59 · 02-24-2008, 12:08 PM

I have an '86 on which Im currently running the '87+ caliper brackets.

Get yourself a good set of pads. Im running the Axxis PBR Ultimates all around (about $80-85 shipped for complete set). I was considering Hawk pads, but they only make front pads. I think we have a bit of front end bias already and didnt need any additional. I have found the PBR Ulitmates to be an awesome all-round upgrade. It takes a lil bit of heating them up, but work really well. They are a bit on the dusty side, but I dont mind, its a small price for a good set of pads. I've had no issues of brake fade w/ them on track days and they are now almost 2yrs old. Given I only put about 2500 mi/yr on the car, when I run the car, I run it hard. The car only sees occasional warm/dry weather spirited driving and track events.

The second thing is rotors, upgrade to the '87+. I recommend the Bradi rotors (Brembo sister company). The Bradi's are Italian and made in the same factory as Brembo. Another good choice per other ppl's recomendations are the Napa rotors. Whether its the Bradi or Napa, just get an OEM replacement. They are roughly $19ea and $21ea (thats what I paid for the Bradi's). Dont waste your money now on the drilled/slotted or even the cryo'ed (frozen) treated. What it would cost you to buy a set of Powerslot cryo'ed, I can buy 5 sets of my Bradi's. The car has seen several track days and alot of hard driving, I have yet to feel any brake shudder in the steering wheel. I also check the rotors a few times per season for wear and have yet to see any. I think my pads will give way first.

Hope this helps. Its a very good budget brake system.

2restomod · 02-24-2008, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakecj7

I would go with the 87+ upgrade with good pads first, then if you think you need more here are two upgrades to check out.
The first is just a bigger front calipers.
1986 MR2 AW11 Chassis, Suspension & Braking modifications
The second is huge upgrade, but takes some fabricating.
Bigbrakes

Cool web site. Thanks for the link!

01-21-2008, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
CalusaCustomConcepts No Skills Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Brakes I just purchased my first deuce. A sweet, one-owner '86 you might have seen on eBay last week. The owner was local and didn't know what she had. (I appologize to all the guys I stole this thing from) I've been scanning the forums for a few years with the intention of building my dream 2, and the day has finally come. Question: What are the brake upgrade options? I've read of putting '87-'89 brakes on the early models. But I think I've seen something about RX-7 calipers.....can someone clue me in on the benefits/headaches of the available options? Ultimately, she's getting an aluminum V6 w/VVTi, but I want to start with the easy stuff, so I can drive her and get a feel for the differences as they come to fruition. Thanks in advance for your advice. Last edited by CalusaCustomConcepts; 02-01-2008 at 12:04 AM.

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01-22-2008, 07:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Oteck RAAAGE! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,151 Thanks: 8 Thanked 60 Times in 57 Posts Blog Entries: 2 iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	it's hard to upgrade car with a 4lug, theres not much option on larger rotors

01-22-2008, 08:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
CalusaCustomConcepts No Skills Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I've seen the custom GT-R article from Paul Woods. But it requires 16 inch wheels. I'm thinking I'll prefer 15's for the sidewall height. Anyone?

01-22-2008, 08:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Oteck RAAAGE! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,151 Thanks: 8 Thanked 60 Times in 57 Posts Blog Entries: 2 iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	you can try mounting 94t calipers... ive been told the rears bolt in

01-31-2008, 11:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
SteveAW11 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 107 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	The 87+ calipers and rotors will do you fine especially with a good set of pads. When you get this V6 in then you could look to bigger, like custom Wilwood setup or something. Heres some good reading for bigger brake options: MR2 Owners Club Message Board&#8482 MR2 Owners Club Message Board&#8482 MR2 Owners Club Message Board&#8482

02-21-2008, 01:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
blakecj7 No Skills Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Posts: 52 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I would go with the 87+ upgrade with good pads first, then if you think you need more here are two upgrades to check out. The first is just a bigger front calipers. 1986 MR2 AW11 Chassis, Suspension & Braking modifications The second is huge upgrade, but takes some fabricating. Bigbrakes

02-24-2008, 12:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
blown59 MR2ZZ-GE w/ 6spd Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 7 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I have an '86 on which Im currently running the '87+ caliper brackets. Get yourself a good set of pads. Im running the Axxis PBR Ultimates all around (about $80-85 shipped for complete set). I was considering Hawk pads, but they only make front pads. I think we have a bit of front end bias already and didnt need any additional. I have found the PBR Ulitmates to be an awesome all-round upgrade. It takes a lil bit of heating them up, but work really well. They are a bit on the dusty side, but I dont mind, its a small price for a good set of pads. I've had no issues of brake fade w/ them on track days and they are now almost 2yrs old. Given I only put about 2500 mi/yr on the car, when I run the car, I run it hard. The car only sees occasional warm/dry weather spirited driving and track events. The second thing is rotors, upgrade to the '87+. I recommend the Bradi rotors (Brembo sister company). The Bradi's are Italian and made in the same factory as Brembo. Another good choice per other ppl's recomendations are the Napa rotors. Whether its the Bradi or Napa, just get an OEM replacement. They are roughly $19ea and $21ea (thats what I paid for the Bradi's). Dont waste your money now on the drilled/slotted or even the cryo'ed (frozen) treated. What it would cost you to buy a set of Powerslot cryo'ed, I can buy 5 sets of my Bradi's. The car has seen several track days and alot of hard driving, I have yet to feel any brake shudder in the steering wheel. I also check the rotors a few times per season for wear and have yet to see any. I think my pads will give way first. Hope this helps. Its a very good budget brake system.