wrx for a mr2 - Page 2

Sang · 11-20-2006, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxormr2

i worked for a dealership and i think the worse part of any toyota is the brakes.

Well, you are sadly mistaken as far as a mkii is concerned, especially the larger, revised brakes in 93.

Quote:

what r the limits of the stock motor and tranny.

Fueling:
Injectors - Stock 440's, ~270whp on pump gas. Gen3 540's, ~340whp on pump gas

Fuel pump - gen2, ~290-320whp

Fuel Rail - Gen2, they need to be changed alongside your new fuel pump, uneven flow distribution occurs if not.

Pistons: Some say 400+whp, i say, go ahead and change them at around 360-370whp, why risk anything?

Headgasket: Next weakest link next to the pistons...get a MHG when you do the machine work for forged pistons

Tranny - 91/91 has a tendency to grind in some gears. 93+ MUCH better shifting tranny, but both have held up to 500+whp cars, 2 step drag launches, etc

Axles - very beefy and can withstand a lot as well, however the cages are weak after ~300whp, ATS's chrom moly cages are in order.

Quote:

how much is a tune. the subaru cost me 750 to start 250 for every hour. the mr2 is a great car and alot of people diagree with me when i say the mr2 is better look car then the wrx.

Tuning depends on your tuner, what your tuning, and what your tuning for. There's no set difference just because the tune is for a 3sgte, rather than an ej20.

And i agree, i think the sw20 has timeless styling, much better in appearance than a scooby

bufferdan · 11-20-2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PETC

I'd say the WRX is a better car than the MR2. The MR2 is overrated.

N/A owner ?

Acet · 11-20-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bufferdan

N/A owner ?

Unfortunatly...

midship909 · 11-20-2006, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acet

Unfortunatly...

SpeedballTrix · 11-20-2006, 05:29 PM

You know what though: I talk a lot of smack about the N/A but it really is a decent car for just cruising around with. I wouldn't count on it to do any serious racing (and keep in mind were talking about the 5S-FE, not the JSpec N/As, cuz those are badass) and I wouldn't spend a dollar modding it... but if you just want a reliable car that you can drive every day and hit the twisties when it's nice out it really does the job pretty well.

Anywho, back on topic: Zapper made a good point when he said "the MR2 and the WRX are different beasts" (or something like that =P ). They really are two different beasts. For any kind of dirt racing I would definately take the WRX. That's not to say a deuce can't rally cuz it has been proven that it can. And for any kind of track (or the 's' word) racing I would definately take the MR2. You are just plain better off with MR than FA (I think just made that term "FA" up... I mean Front-engine AWD) for track racing or drag racing. And that's not to say a WRX cant run on a track against MRs cuz that has been well proven.
But if you're looking for an ideal choice for a track car, I would say the deuce.

wrxormr2 · 11-21-2006, 01:56 AM

yeah i think im going to go with the mr2 i loved that befor the subby. and not having traction problems is kinda boring. cant wait to get it ill let u guys know when i get it. its going to be the most badass mr2 ever seen
thanks everyone

Sang · 11-21-2006, 03:12 AM

lol, there's some pretty bad ass sw20's out there as it is..., tony b comes to mind as well as a few others

you'll be in some tough company

mr2much · 11-21-2006, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PETC

I'd say the WRX is a better car than the MR2. The MR2 is overrated.

Thats because you have an NA. Get a turbo and you'll see that its actually an underrated car.

mr2slow4you · 11-21-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2much

Thats because you have an NA. Get a turbo and you'll see that its actually an underrated car.

The na can handle just as good as the turbo car. With the right types of roads, it comes down to the better driver.

mr2much · 11-21-2006, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2slow4you

The na can handle just as good as the turbo car. With the right types of roads, it comes down to the better driver.

sure it can handle just as good. But if he (PETC) is saying that its an overrated car then there must be some reason that he likes other cars (WRX in this case) more. i can't see him having a problem with the handling so it must be the acceleration that disappoints. If he had a turbo, I think he would see that most people actually underrate MR2s.

As for the starter of this thread. Yes, get an MR2. I can't really think of a better platform to build a race car from. No matter what you do to any other car it will *never* handle as well as a mid engine (of equivelant weight) on a smooth dry road such as a race track.

rushMr2 · 11-21-2006, 01:40 PM

My opinon on the handling of an MKII may be a little skewed because my car is a widebody and has a 2 1/2" wider rear base but my 2 is by far the best, most fun car that I have ever driven. Cars that I can compare it against are the Saturn Sky, Honda s2000, BMW 645 and m3, Ford mustang (god it was horrible), Acura Integra, cars like that. The s2k and the sky are the only ones that come close. All of them had their flaws, wheras the MR2 just feels perfect, minus the fact that my car has no power steering so if yiu hit a bump mid turn, hopefully you're holding the wheel tight.That, to me is a good thing though. I have never encountered the 'snap oversteer' that people say flaws the 91/92's but it definately has that 'point-and-shoot' feel to it. The car goes exactly where you want it to go and has no understeer feel whatsoever. I love it. I wish I had driven a WRX so I could compare them but you cant go wrong with the MR2

runnerjosh2k · 11-21-2006, 04:01 PM

I still have my 04 wrx (which is for sale by the way) and a 91 n/a mr. I can definately say that the wrx and the 2 both are fun to drive cars. I do agree with you that it does get old having mad grip with the awd, and that is the main reason i sprung ror the mr2. Although the n/a is not as powerful as the scooby, all the power you need is just a swap away. Good luck and enjoy.

Mekkahfire · 11-21-2006, 07:58 PM

Thats when you make the cars sex eachother and buy an Alltrac, or an ST205 GT4

MrGrimm · 01-27-2007, 06:34 PM

im selling my mr2 and getting an sti this summer. i need something with a warranty till i get my shit together

imweip · 01-27-2007, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2much

Thats because you have an NA. Get a turbo and you'll see that its actually an underrated car.

He's doing an engine swap this summer I believe... expect his opinion to change then

canadam · 01-28-2007, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imweip

He's doing an engine swap this summer I believe... expect his opinion to change then

Gary was just being Gary, don't take him too seriously

11-21-2006, 04:01 PM	#32 (permalink)
runnerjosh2k No Skills Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	go for it I still have my 04 wrx (which is for sale by the way) and a 91 n/a mr. I can definately say that the wrx and the 2 both are fun to drive cars. I do agree with you that it does get old having mad grip with the awd, and that is the main reason i sprung ror the mr2. Although the n/a is not as powerful as the scooby, all the power you need is just a swap away. Good luck and enjoy.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

11-20-2006, 05:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
SpeedballTrix Foul Weather Drifter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 871 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	You know what though: I talk a lot of smack about the N/A but it really is a decent car for just cruising around with. I wouldn't count on it to do any serious racing (and keep in mind were talking about the 5S-FE, not the JSpec N/As, cuz those are badass) and I wouldn't spend a dollar modding it... but if you just want a reliable car that you can drive every day and hit the twisties when it's nice out it really does the job pretty well. Anywho, back on topic: Zapper made a good point when he said "the MR2 and the WRX are different beasts" (or something like that =P ). They really are two different beasts. For any kind of dirt racing I would definately take the WRX. That's not to say a deuce can't rally cuz it has been proven that it can. And for any kind of track (or the 's' word) racing I would definately take the MR2. You are just plain better off with MR than FA (I think just made that term "FA" up... I mean Front-engine AWD) for track racing or drag racing. And that's not to say a WRX cant run on a track against MRs cuz that has been well proven. But if you're looking for an ideal choice for a track car, I would say the deuce.

11-21-2006, 01:56 AM	#26 (permalink)
wrxormr2 No Skills Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yeah i think im going to go with the mr2 i loved that befor the subby. and not having traction problems is kinda boring. cant wait to get it ill let u guys know when i get it. its going to be the most badass mr2 ever seen thanks everyone

11-21-2006, 03:12 AM	#27 (permalink)
Sang Turtle Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FL Posts: 4,096 Thanks: 18 Thanked 267 Times in 246 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	lol, there's some pretty bad ass sw20's out there as it is..., tony b comes to mind as well as a few others you'll be in some tough company

11-21-2006, 01:40 PM	#31 (permalink)
rushMr2 The Youngster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 212 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	My opinon on the handling of an MKII may be a little skewed because my car is a widebody and has a 2 1/2" wider rear base but my 2 is by far the best, most fun car that I have ever driven. Cars that I can compare it against are the Saturn Sky, Honda s2000, BMW 645 and m3, Ford mustang (god it was horrible), Acura Integra, cars like that. The s2k and the sky are the only ones that come close. All of them had their flaws, wheras the MR2 just feels perfect, minus the fact that my car has no power steering so if yiu hit a bump mid turn, hopefully you're holding the wheel tight.That, to me is a good thing though. I have never encountered the 'snap oversteer' that people say flaws the 91/92's but it definately has that 'point-and-shoot' feel to it. The car goes exactly where you want it to go and has no understeer feel whatsoever. I love it. I wish I had driven a WRX so I could compare them but you cant go wrong with the MR2

11-21-2006, 07:58 PM	#33 (permalink)
Mekkahfire Gone But Not Forgotten Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Westerville OH Posts: 1,351 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/75% )	Thats when you make the cars sex eachother and buy an Alltrac, or an ST205 GT4

01-27-2007, 06:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
MrGrimm n00b Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 408 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	im selling my mr2 and getting an sti this summer. i need something with a warranty till i get my shit together