I found a deal with the DEVIL

[deiselfuel2o2]

Ku-sama thanks for the info man. Really appreciate it. I just want a car that can handle a drift on a counter banked turn. Thats it, otherwise im all about hugs!

I kinda like feeling the chassis go woooo...op back in place! lol

I would not need to change anything for my FWD car oversteers like mad when I hit those counter banks and its kinda hard to control oversteer in a FWD car haha.

Yes the Corolla (AE86) would be my fav car....omfg im retarded, I can get one for cheap around here and they use the same engine...hehe i know what im doing tommorow!

Well maybe I wont do that persay, but that would be soo cool to actually own an AE86 with an engine that only has 66k on it. The car already is made for drifting (rims, camber, toe, rubber, chassis work, LSD, suspension, still N/A LOL)

Really though thanks for the info guys, ideas are startin to pop up alot! Do they use the same tranny btw? just in reverse? lol FR vs. MR haha wtf

[Raptor13x]

The MR2's engine is transverse mounted, so no, the transmission is not the same as any FR-layout car.

[TreyMR2]

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

Do they use the same tranny btw? just in reverse? lol FR vs. MR haha wtf

was that a serious question?

[kolczak]

ok first thing after reading all of this if you say you are a good driver you arent. that is true for everything. if you say you're good at something you have no room for improvement. if you ask some of the best drivers out there from anything from f1 to nascar they will not admit to being good drivers. the minute you start to get cocky is when you get hurt and wreck stuff. ive read that you've taken driving school and things like that, which is great. not everyone gets that chance, but pushing the limits on a race track and sliding into some dirt is a lot different then pushing the limits in a canyon and sliding off a 100 foot cliff. from experience of myself and friends losing control in canyons, luckily the worst that happened is hitting the mountain, dont push the limits, aka drifting. there is a time and place for this and it is not in a canyon. i dont mean you to take this offensively, just understand that driving a car isn't a joke. it takes a lot of skill and it sounds like your on your way to being a good driver someday.

as for the car, if you have the money they are fun little cars. great for autocross. even with just a basic 20v swap ~1200 it will give you a significant increase in power. with a nice suspension and some good tires it would be an autocross monster. be better then driving a 90hp honda hatch. so the whole issue would be money. if you have the money to fix it up and make it run nice their great little cars. but if you dont, like you said, hold off for 4 years til you do have the money. then free storage.

[TreyMR2]

Originally Posted by Raptor13x

We generally discourage teenagers from buying MR2s, because our cars can be challenging to drive, and teenagers don't generally have the skill and maturity to handle it. They always think they do, but it's rarely the case. (I know I thought I was god's gift to driving when I was that age) We've seen countless new MR2 owners end up in a ditch/wall, and we don't want any more of our cars to die at the hands of immature drivers. That's the source of the attitude you're catching wind of.

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

btw im 19 now so i've been driving for quite some time

Actually I'm younger than he is, I'm 17, I'm just strongly against people that refer to drifting as a way to trick your opponent. I haven't driven a lot of cars but I will say my turbo MKII has a completely different feel than anything else I've ever drove. I'm not comparing my driving to yours cause for all I know you probably are better, I'm all about to motors. I probably have just as many hours working on mine as I have driving it. Lol I'm just throwing a heads up that these don't drift like most other cars. Also I know that drifting is just pulling the ebrake. I just always called the going just a tad to fast threw a corner where the tail steps out just a bit power sliding. Purposely trying to do that in an MR2 when you've never drove one before just has guard rail/ditch wrote all over it.

[Ku-sama]

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

Ku-sama thanks for the info man. Really appreciate it.

sure.

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

I would not need to change anything for my FWD car oversteers like mad when I hit those counter banks and its kinda hard to control oversteer in a FWD car haha.

Yes the Corolla (AE86) would be my fav car....omfg im retarded, I can get one for cheap around here and they use the same engine...hehe i know what im doing tommorow!

don't hack up a perfectly good MR2 to fix a Corolla. if I were you, I'd look at getting a 20V Silvertop for the 86 and you'd be much better off. plus you'd only have 20k some odd miles on the motor.

[Gairloch]

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

Really though thanks for the info guys, ideas are startin to pop up alot! Do they use the same tranny btw? just in reverse? lol FR vs. MR haha wtf

Originally Posted by Raptor13x

The MR2's engine is transverse mounted, so no, the transmission is not the same as any FR-layout car.

Actually, the MkII MR2 transmission is very very similar to the s51, the fwd version used in the camry and the celica. The gear linkages can even be reversed and used with a little modification of the casing. Yes, the gear ratios and final drive are different but that's incidental.

I dunno about the Mk I tranny. I wouldn't be surprised if it has very close analogs in other Toyota cars.

[Raptor13x]

Originally Posted by Gairloch

Actually, the MkII MR2 transmission is very very similar to the s51, the fwd version used in the camry and the celica. The gear linkages can even be reversed and used with a little modification of the casing. Yes, the gear ratios and final drive are different but that's incidental.

I dunno about the Mk I tranny. I wouldn't be surprised if it has very close analogs in other Toyota cars.

You misinterpreted what I was saying. I was saying that the MR2 transmission is not similar to any front-engine, rear-wheel drive transmission.

All the MR2 transmissions are the same or very similar to ordinary front wheel drive Toyota transmissions, Toyota essentially lifted the engine/trans out of a front wheel drive car and put it where it belongs, behind you.

[Tycoon788]

not to be rude or anything but 19 dose NOT mean u have been driving for a long enough time.. I'm also 19, but have had my mr2 since i was 16.. so i know how the car is. I wouldn't ever imply that I'm good enough behind the wheel yet.

[TreyMR2]

Originally Posted by Tycoon788

not to be rude or anything but 19 dose NOT mean u have been driving for a long enough time.. I'm also 19, but have had my mr2 since i was 16.. so i know how the car is. I wouldn't ever imply that I'm good enough behind the wheel yet.

Thats exactly how I am. I got mine when I was 14 and first got it running when I was 15. I'll be 18 in a few weeks so I have about 3 years of driving almost nothing but my MR2. Half of that time it was n/a half it was Gen3 JDM turbo. I have got way better than I was at first but I have a lot I could improve on too. Luckily I've never wreaked it though. I did spin it before when I first got the turbo motor in it. I was just kinda being stupid though so it didn't really shock me. Didn't go off the road or hit anything though.

[superheroguy11]

its a free car. you would be stupid to not take it

[Gairloch]

Originally Posted by Raptor13x

You misinterpreted what I was saying. I was saying that the MR2 transmission is not similar to any front-engine, rear-wheel drive transmission.

All the MR2 transmissions are the same or very similar to ordinary front wheel drive Toyota transmissions, Toyota essentially lifted the engine/trans out of a front wheel drive car and put it where it belongs, behind you.

That's what I get for posting at 3am

Originally Posted by superheroguy11

its a free car. you would be stupid to not take it

Famous last words The acquisition of a car is where expense begins.

[Fazed Out]

I personally would not waste a ton of money on a snowbound car that's been sitting unused to 10 years. When I say waste, I mean on a high-quality paint job. All it takes is one rock to chip it...

Likely, the tires will all need replacing. As will all the fluids, plus if there's corrosion in any fluid lines you have to fix that. Likely the exhaust is all rusted out too.

If you're going to take it to the track, etc, I would concentrate on the mechanical upkeep and either take the car in it's most likely bad condition paint or get a more utilitarian paint job.

And please understand, we've seen too many news stories where people die taking the MR2 in a turn way too fast, or showing off. Regardless of what you tell us your background is, we don't know you from adam. I'm sure you'll agree drifting isn't easy. It's even harder in a midengine. Nothing like the balls to the wall FR layout. If you are as experienced as you claim, you realize how dangerous at the limit driving is. Can you blame us from warning anyone about to do it?

However, if it's a free car, I would at least drive out there. If you don't like it, at least you can take it as a free mini-vacation roadtrip. Can they snap any pics? Might help you judge if its worth the effort.

[deiselfuel2o2]

I never said I was the best driver ever! I just know that i'm not a horrid driver that's all. I meant good as in better than a Blonde Asian woman driving a F350! haha

But yes driving at the limit is intense...sometimes too intense, but to me there is nothing like driving at extremes because I just get the feeling that I am the car. No longer me, no longer the guy driving the car, just the car. I feel everything, i'm pretty sure everyone else gets this too so im not gonna tell my life story. The 10 year sitting part is what worries me the most.

When i said tranny I meant the gears...

Like would you rather have 66k gears driven by a slow driver or gears that are 155k just drifting...

But really guys, other than the slight confrontations, thanks for the help.

I will consider the 20V silvertop but that would be 2,700 + 1,200 which is more than free + renovations (minus paint job).

I know you guys would hate to see the car go, but im pretty sure a 24 year old car 20 miles from a Salt Lake is going to be rusted out...

I just realized how close it was to the lake LOL.

I will check the car out in the near future (month or so) and give you guys updated info. Pictures of course! It is red with black interior (duh..) and like 50 mothballs inside...

It might have a tree growing somewhere but who knows. Like I said...has no been moved 1 inch in 10+ years so who know...maybe its in the best condition, or maybe it is in the worst.

Thanks again!


Regis

[metheores]

what I still don't get from this whole thread is drifting to school on a mountain path.
That sounds like the USA version of Initial D- i.e total ********.
as a matter of fact i'd say it sounds like the second chapter of the first volume in the manga where i think they say that takumi knows the curves "by heart". lol
The MR2 would not be able to "whip" it's tail around like that without losing control due to the layout of the car. My friends race their two's around and its more like a grip car, taking turns with sharp handling and little tailwhip if you know how to drive it. The way you describe your driving abilities i would say you're either Keiichi Tsuchiya's son- or you are some driving guru with 4-5 years of experience (assuming you drove with your license and not with your perm).
Either way I just have a hard time on believing all of this haha.

going back to your question-
anything free is good you might as well take it and see how it goes, not like you are losing money from the beginning except for gas and if u take a couple of friends it could be a fun road trip

[conor]

Mk.1 MR2s are cheap, efficient, fun sportscars. Free sounds like a good deal to me.

They're also miserable drift cars. It's neigh-impossible to hold a slide, nevermind slide really sideways like the 240 kids do. If you want a drift toy, keep moving. If you want a fun old car to restore and commute in, get the MR2.

You ought to have paid more attention in driving school, too.. Grip is faster than slip.

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

And I currently own a scion Xa (2006) with mild mods as well but am looking for more of a touge car LOL.

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

Drifting btw, is insanely beneficial in mountain roads. Not just for going faster (duh...) but for tricking your opponent. Example : FWD car hand brake drifting/down-shifting/counter steering/gunning it and smoke going everywhere will make your opponent slow down if already behind you LOL..

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

Most turns are 40mph but could be 50 with the mr2 without drifting but like 60 with it drifting.

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

I know I sound like my attitude is fierce and bad, but i hate it when people assume i suck at driving.

Originally Posted by deiselfuel2o2

btw im 19 now so i've been driving for quite some time

[metheores]