Home powder coating

blazinmr2 · 10-30-2005, 07:08 PM

Don't know if this would be the right place to post this, but I came across this while surfing the web.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...&vertical=TOOL

Anybody worked with anything like this before. Seems like it would work pretty good.

ALLSHOTUP · 10-30-2005, 08:15 PM

I saw a post on this on another website. And I think someone saw it for sale in a sales ad for $139.00. They also had mixed reviews.

Weasy2k · 10-30-2005, 08:22 PM

I have a kit liek that...havent used it yet as my shop isnt finished yet...once im done nad have heat ill check it out

Mister2.2 · 10-30-2005, 08:37 PM

I'm searching for a damn used electric oven, cant seem to find one.

Ryansmagic · 10-30-2005, 10:00 PM

I have a similar setup in my garage. The big thing is the Electric oven. The gun really doesn't make that big of a difference aslong as it charges and sprays evenly. Its mostly the oven and how well you can controll the temps. Any questions, just PM me. I've done about 40 items...

Mister2.2 · 10-30-2005, 10:23 PM

Have some pictures of the parts you did and which oven are you using?

blazinmr2 · 10-30-2005, 10:58 PM

How do you know when an item has been baked for long enough?

turboguy · 10-31-2005, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazinmr2

How do you know when an item has been baked for long enough?

when the toothpick comes out clean.

I've used the craftsman powdercoat gun and wasn't exactly pleased with the results. It doesn't spray nearl as even as some of the other guns Ive used. (like the $4k ones at work) As for an oven, most home ovens heat up to 25* above what its set at and can fall as low as 25* below. A while back, I saw a digital thermostat unit that you installed on your shop oven to control temps to ~1* either way. I'm not sure where I saw it though.

goddom · 09-15-2007, 08:46 AM

There are tons of digital thermostats at like Bed Bath and Beyond, or some place that sells kitchen stuff. There is a probe that goes in the oven and the unit sits outside and reads the temp.

I am not sure but I would think the part should be suspended in the oven? I have never done powder coating, but it would seem to me that it would rub off if you didn't hang the part?

canadam · 09-15-2007, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister2.2

I'm searching for a damn used electric oven, cant seem to find one.

Really? There's free ones all over here. Check the local landfill, maybe they have a swap shed.

black94t · 09-15-2007, 08:35 PM

I have a shop set up in my house but will not be using that gun. harbor freight is where I'll shop for starters. Any gun that is designated for powder coating will work as long as you are using a voltage xformer that will give you 15-20kV of voltage to distribute the powder at a positive charge. I do not have any past experiences but I have done a thorough review on most guns. powdercoating does depend on evenly heating ovens (kitchen oven works best because if we ate baked foods that didnt cook evenly, we'd have many situations of "hitting" uncooked parts of the food); HOWEVER, the key to the professional powdercoat is in the preparation of the product prior to baking. A good sandblast system is much better than spending $100 over on a gun. I saw a $1,000 gun once and it seemed like the only bragging rights it had was the fact it is more effective for numerous parts and is faster for a business. For doing a couple small things at home, you dont need to drop $$$ on a PC gun. I have pictures of my set up if anyone is interested.

black94t · 09-15-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goddom

There are tons of digital thermostats at like Bed Bath and Beyond, or some place that sells kitchen stuff. There is a probe that goes in the oven and the unit sits outside and reads the temp.

I am not sure but I would think the part should be suspended in the oven? I have never done powder coating, but it would seem to me that it would rub off if you didn't hang the part?

True, if you dont hang it the edges will be distinct after it's done baking. I have a little set up in my oven to hange the manifold; however for parts like a valve cover, you dont need to hang.

goddom · 09-16-2007, 06:38 PM

I almost want to start powder coating now!

black94t · 09-16-2007, 07:20 PM

tell me about it. I'm waiting on some funds from my tail light restoration group buy and I'll have the most important tool: the air compressor. Finding the right air compressor at the right price is very meticulous.

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blazinmr2 Resident guitar shredder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pella, Ia Posts: 781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Home powder coating Don't know if this would be the right place to post this, but I came across this while surfing the web. http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...&vertical=TOOL Anybody worked with anything like this before. Seems like it would work pretty good.

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ALLSHOTUP Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: MARS HILL Posts: 861 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I saw a post on this on another website. And I think someone saw it for sale in a sales ad for $139.00. They also had mixed reviews.

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Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,895 Thanks: 34 Thanked 80 Times in 66 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	I have a kit liek that...havent used it yet as my shop isnt finished yet...once im done nad have heat ill check it out

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Mister2.2 Cheese it! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,274 Thanks: 108 Thanked 109 Times in 94 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	I'm searching for a damn used electric oven, cant seem to find one.

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Ryansmagic No Skills Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	I have a similar setup in my garage. The big thing is the Electric oven. The gun really doesn't make that big of a difference aslong as it charges and sprays evenly. Its mostly the oven and how well you can controll the temps. Any questions, just PM me. I've done about 40 items...

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Mister2.2 Cheese it! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,274 Thanks: 108 Thanked 109 Times in 94 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Have some pictures of the parts you did and which oven are you using?

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blazinmr2 Resident guitar shredder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pella, Ia Posts: 781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	How do you know when an item has been baked for long enough?

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goddom WEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 167 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	There are tons of digital thermostats at like Bed Bath and Beyond, or some place that sells kitchen stuff. There is a probe that goes in the oven and the unit sits outside and reads the temp. I am not sure but I would think the part should be suspended in the oven? I have never done powder coating, but it would seem to me that it would rub off if you didn't hang the part?

09-15-2007, 08:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
black94t MR2 Powder Coater Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jefferson City, MO. Posts: 277 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I have a shop set up in my house but will not be using that gun. harbor freight is where I'll shop for starters. Any gun that is designated for powder coating will work as long as you are using a voltage xformer that will give you 15-20kV of voltage to distribute the powder at a positive charge. I do not have any past experiences but I have done a thorough review on most guns. powdercoating does depend on evenly heating ovens (kitchen oven works best because if we ate baked foods that didnt cook evenly, we'd have many situations of "hitting" uncooked parts of the food); HOWEVER, the key to the professional powdercoat is in the preparation of the product prior to baking. A good sandblast system is much better than spending $100 over on a gun. I saw a $1,000 gun once and it seemed like the only bragging rights it had was the fact it is more effective for numerous parts and is faster for a business. For doing a couple small things at home, you dont need to drop $$$ on a PC gun. I have pictures of my set up if anyone is interested.

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goddom WEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 167 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I almost want to start powder coating now!

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black94t MR2 Powder Coater Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jefferson City, MO. Posts: 277 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	tell me about it. I'm waiting on some funds from my tail light restoration group buy and I'll have the most important tool: the air compressor. Finding the right air compressor at the right price is very meticulous.