Best non standalone to run 550's

Redlyne_mr2 · 08-28-2006, 12:31 AM

Hey guys,
Whats the easiest system out there to run 550s thats not a standalone? I have an afc and Im not sure if should just keep it or upgrade to the afc neo or look at an emanage. Any help would be appreciated thanks
Ryan

Sang · 08-28-2006, 01:34 AM

I plan to use a romtune

the2ndr · 08-28-2006, 01:51 PM

stock? It works and it's cheap. Comes with the car

I use the version1 safc with a Aeromitive FPR.

baktasht · 08-28-2006, 05:29 PM

what are your power goals? you might not even need 550's

Locofrancais MR2Guru · 08-28-2006, 08:24 PM

We have managed to make 332rwhp on a SAFC II with the 550's at a 63% duty cycle. Needless to say it is not easy nor suggested, it is possible.

Redlyne_mr2 · 08-29-2006, 02:37 AM

I have a blitz k3t turbo kit, Id like to realize some of its potention but having standalone in Canada sucks because its so tough to find anyone to tune it. I have yet to meet someone here with standalone that doesnt have issues. Im not saying standalone sucks because it sure doesnt, I just want something simple easy and reversible.

joeo · 08-30-2006, 12:28 AM

I sue the SAFC with an Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator with pretty good success. You will be battling the stock ECU - particulary with resepct to ignition timing.
I wrote up a tuning guide after doing some videos for the installation of a regulator and how to tune it:
http://www.lovehorsepower.com/MR2_Docs/Tuning.htm

http://www.lovehorsepower.com

Weasy2k · 08-30-2006, 12:33 AM

Avoid the S-AFC if you are a novice tuner...look through the EFI section to find the info as to why!

As far as canada goes where are you?

Redlyne_mr2 · 08-30-2006, 08:44 PM

Yah trying to stay away from the afc because it really messes with my timing. I might just use the old one I have on my 440s until I figure out what to do. im in Calgary

Weasy2k · 08-30-2006, 09:28 PM

Ahh calgary....i dont know people out there but i can find some tuners via a friend that goes to UoC he knows the area more.

Im in vancouver BC and will start traveling to Edminton for work a week per mth...so if you needed help we can work something out too!

jdchmiel · 09-27-2006, 09:18 AM

the emanage has the benefit over the safc in that you can adjust timing with it too.. I udnno in mk2 applications if it all works or not though.. Its great on my subaru ( for what it is) I would prefer standalone, but if you need the stock computer happy and ready to tell the obd2 port hookup "all is well, pass this inspection test now thankyou" then you have to use piggyback and not standalone.

Widebody · 09-27-2006, 01:18 PM

An easy way is the HKS VPC, too...

Enthalpy · 09-27-2006, 05:18 PM

The HKS VPC is very crude. Your car will not run like stock, and you will still have the timing issues the SAFC brings to the party.

When MRControls gets done with the replacement for the ROM tune, that will probably be the EMS alternative I will recommend to people.

Weasy2k · 09-27-2006, 07:10 PM

I would go with a good standalone that can retard timing as well as advance it such a the SMT6 unit which has been used alot for such a job. I have it running my tacoma which has 370cc injectors from 230's for the last 3 years. Its a great little unit.

08-28-2006, 12:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Redlyne_mr2 I Pump Cougars Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 236 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Best non standalone to run 550's Hey guys, Whats the easiest system out there to run 550s thats not a standalone? I have an afc and Im not sure if should just keep it or upgrade to the afc neo or look at an emanage. Any help would be appreciated thanks Ryan

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Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,895 Thanks: 34 Thanked 80 Times in 66 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	Avoid the S-AFC if you are a novice tuner...look through the EFI section to find the info as to why! As far as canada goes where are you? __________________ -Johnny @ Sea2Sky Tuning - www.sea2skytuning.com http://www.mr2.com/forums/sea2sky-tu...-out-sale.html Last edited by Weasy2k; 09-27-2006 at 07:09 PM.

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08-28-2006, 01:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sang Go Magic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Home: Tampa, FL School: Gainesville, FL Posts: 3,399 Thanks: 19 Thanked 220 Times in 200 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	I plan to use a romtune

08-28-2006, 01:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
the2ndr yes, I miss it! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: atl,ga Posts: 417 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	stock? It works and it's cheap. Comes with the car I use the version1 safc with a Aeromitive FPR.

08-28-2006, 05:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
baktasht EMSPowered.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,662 Thanks: 19 Thanked 133 Times in 118 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (41/98% )	what are your power goals? you might not even need 550's

08-28-2006, 08:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Locofrancais MR2Guru Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 542 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (9/91% )	We have managed to make 332rwhp on a SAFC II with the 550's at a 63% duty cycle. Needless to say it is not easy nor suggested, it is possible.

08-29-2006, 02:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Redlyne_mr2 I Pump Cougars Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 236 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I have a blitz k3t turbo kit, Id like to realize some of its potention but having standalone in Canada sucks because its so tough to find anyone to tune it. I have yet to meet someone here with standalone that doesnt have issues. Im not saying standalone sucks because it sure doesnt, I just want something simple easy and reversible.

08-30-2006, 12:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
joeo Boost is so very good... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I sue the SAFC with an Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator with pretty good success. You will be battling the stock ECU - particulary with resepct to ignition timing. I wrote up a tuning guide after doing some videos for the installation of a regulator and how to tune it: http://www.lovehorsepower.com/MR2_Docs/Tuning.htm http://www.lovehorsepower.com

08-30-2006, 08:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Redlyne_mr2 I Pump Cougars Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 236 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Yah trying to stay away from the afc because it really messes with my timing. I might just use the old one I have on my 440s until I figure out what to do. im in Calgary

08-30-2006, 09:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,895 Thanks: 34 Thanked 80 Times in 66 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	Ahh calgary....i dont know people out there but i can find some tuners via a friend that goes to UoC he knows the area more. Im in vancouver BC and will start traveling to Edminton for work a week per mth...so if you needed help we can work something out too!

09-27-2006, 09:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
jdchmiel No Skills Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: raleigh nc Posts: 280 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	the emanage has the benefit over the safc in that you can adjust timing with it too.. I udnno in mk2 applications if it all works or not though.. Its great on my subaru ( for what it is) I would prefer standalone, but if you need the stock computer happy and ready to tell the obd2 port hookup "all is well, pass this inspection test now thankyou" then you have to use piggyback and not standalone.

09-27-2006, 01:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
Widebody Wide-body-builder ;-) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	An easy way is the HKS VPC, too...

09-27-2006, 05:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,219 Thanks: 8 Thanked 54 Times in 42 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	The HKS VPC is very crude. Your car will not run like stock, and you will still have the timing issues the SAFC brings to the party. When MRControls gets done with the replacement for the ROM tune, that will probably be the EMS alternative I will recommend to people.

09-27-2006, 07:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,895 Thanks: 34 Thanked 80 Times in 66 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	I would go with a good standalone that can retard timing as well as advance it such a the SMT6 unit which has been used alot for such a job. I have it running my tacoma which has 370cc injectors from 230's for the last 3 years. Its a great little unit.