FG & CF Doors

[David48]

Originally Posted by wagonis

So what's the cost of these bad boys?

Originally Posted by baktasht

1 set (both sides) - $1200
1 set (both sides) with side impact bars - $1500

[Just Wong It]

good luck on the accident if someone crashes on the side of you

[wagonis]

DAMN! I just got pwned! me=fail

Good one David48, although now you're game like anyone else.

[mr2gq]

Man I would hate to try and put the glass and all the otehr crap in that with out breaking it

[Oteck]

it should be stated that these are for TRACK ONLY. you have to be seriously retarded to use these on the streets

[Dance_Business]

Originally Posted by Oteck

it should be stated that these are for TRACK ONLY. you have to be seriously retarded to use these on the streets

I want them, but only if I have a cage for protection. I want to keep my car registered/streetable.

[Raptor13x]

That looks pretty sweet. Will the window and accessories attach properly and work?

[conor]

Originally Posted by Oteck

it should be stated that these are for TRACK ONLY. you have to be seriously retarded to use these on the streets

QFT

I'm not sure I see how a side-impact beam inside the shell will help, either. If something hits the door at a perpendicular angle, the hinges and latch will just rip out of the shattered fiberglass shell.. even it's attached to the hinge and latch ring on the inside of the shell.. those bolts are tiny.

Definitely not for use anywhere but on a car with a fully-integrated cage with beefy side bars. Not even on a race track (getting t-boned at 100+mph is probably a lot worse than 65mph, eh). MR2s are extraordinarily safe vehicles.. except for the sides.



$0.20

[mr2gq]

Not saying all but most race cars have roll cages in htem

[conor]

^^^ Look at real race cars (like Nascar's and IRL/F1). No doors. The cage is an integral part of the vehicle structure, and they have a lot more than just the one little bar that your typical street car cage has. A little bar placed 2-3" from the side of your leg isn't going to do you much good when you wrap your car around a tree or get t-boned. The heavy steel door's main usefulness lies in the fact that steel gives and bends and you have two "layers" of steel between you and the outside world.

[mr2gq]

hmm I thought I said race cars. Meaning "real" race cars. Not tonkatoy's

[baktasht]

I havent looked into any test data on FG versus sheet metal, but doyou guys really thing that thin sheet metal is any better than FG in how strong the pieces are? Can someone with real world experience with FG chip in? I'd be curious to see some facts on the topic.

To answer a few questions.

Do the accessories, window, etc... bolt right in? I've been told that they should. I will be test fitting the doors on our test car this coming week and all of this will be confirmed.

Pricing? The pricing I stated before was an estimated cost. I will have firm numbers for you guys in about 1.5 weeks from now.

[sk8erfreak]

i wanna price on CF for sure

[LordNikon]

I guess no one considered things like jeeps with soft doors...perfectly street legal, and unless you jack it up they sit pretty low. So if you get hit by say even a small truck your pretty much screwed. So I don't really see a problem in running FG or CF doors on the street. Besides as small as our cars are to begin with if you get hit by just about anything your screwed. God forbid you ever get in a head on collision with a truck, you'd have a bumper in your front windsheild. Now I know some of you are from areas with alot of lifted trucks, so you know how easy it is for a truck to roll right over the top of a 2.

[conor]

Originally Posted by baktasht

I havent looked into any test data on FG versus sheet metal, but doyou guys really thing that thin sheet metal is any better than FG in how strong the pieces are? Can someone with real world experience with FG chip in? I'd be curious to see some facts on the topic.

To answer a few questions.

Do the accessories, window, etc... bolt right in? I've been told that they should. I will be test fitting the doors on our test car this coming week and all of this will be confirmed.

Pricing? The pricing I stated before was an estimated cost. I will have firm numbers for you guys in about 1.5 weeks from now.

I have real world experience. FG and CF can be made strong, but they are also brittle. Take a 4-lb hammer and smash it into a fiberglass body kit.. boom, it shreds and kind of explodes everywhere. Now, take your hammer and bash on a car fender.

Sheet metal protects you during a car accident better because it absorbs and disperses the impact energy. Fiberglass won't disperse the energy.. it'll let it pass right through until it hits something that will slow it down.

I'm not knocking the product, but these are definitely something that shouldn't be anywhere near a street car.

Originally Posted by LordNikon

I guess no one considered things like jeeps with soft doors...perfectly street legal, and unless you jack it up they sit pretty low. So if you get hit by say even a small truck your pretty much screwed. So I don't really see a problem in running FG or CF doors on the street. Besides as small as our cars are to begin with if you get hit by just about anything your screwed. God forbid you ever get in a head on collision with a truck, you'd have a bumper in your front windsheild. Now I know some of you are from areas with alot of lifted trucks, so you know how easy it is for a truck to roll right over the top of a 2.

I got t-boned by a Ford Excursion in my '93. Drove the car home. She was only doing about 25mph though.

Head-on against a lifted truck would be funny. The car would act like a ramp! haha

[Raptor13x]

I would put them on a street car and drive it, but I don't care about petty things like safety.

[Oteck]

thats fine if you like to die w/ your car

[nikk1877]

Regarding crash protection, even with sheet metal doors and side impact bars, if you get t-boned or go broadside into a lampost your ****ed anyway, especially in a t-bar.

Are the CF doors to be made in wet or dry CF? I was reading some stuff about a full CF bodied NSX and it stated that dry is the best for strength and wet is only used for cosmetics.

Also, have you thought about carbon kevlar? Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that a bit tougher than CF?

I'd be quite happy to fit reinforced dry CF doors though as I don't think i'm reducing the side impact protection by much.