Idea for a new product Tash

Luni · 03-22-2008, 04:54 AM

You know what I think would be a really cool thing to see produced, which wouldnt be that hard of a thing to do, if it was popular enough or sought after enough, would be an adapter plate to run a gen3 3SGTE manifold on a gen2 head. In light of doing the gen3 electronics conversion on my car, I want the gen3 IM but nobody makes an adapter. A few people have made em, and they work, but nobody has disclosed info or wants to make them.

You should ask the MR2 guys and see what interest would be. I know Id be interested.

baktasht · 03-26-2008, 11:30 AM

Hmmmm. I'll definitely look into it. I think the main challenge with that would be the different bolt/stud pattern.

TreyMR2 · 03-26-2008, 10:46 PM

I know this has like nothing to do with this thread so delete my post if you need to I just didn't think it was important enough for a new thread. I have an idea too, what about like a after market shield for the stock turbo manifold? Like a polished alm or SS one. I'd buy that in a sec.

canadam · 03-26-2008, 10:49 PM

Luni, would a TVIS removal spacer and GenII Intake Manifold suffice? I'm sure Baktash could have those made easily.

Mr2crazybyong · 03-26-2008, 11:16 PM

this is interesting, would the outcome be equal to a gen3 swap power wise if you swap the IM and the turbo? a cheaper alternative.

canadam · 03-26-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr2crazybyong

this is interesting, would the outcome be equal to a gen3 swap power wise if you swap the IM and the turbo? a cheaper alternative.

It's more than just that, there's quite a list of changes.

Gen 3 FAQ and reference thread

MR2TRD1 · 03-27-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr2crazybyong

this is interesting, would the outcome be equal to a gen3 swap power wise if you swap the IM and the turbo? a cheaper alternative.

Yea...ALOT of differences...althought the main ones...the turbo, no afm, larger injectors, different ecu, etc..make the largest difference.

baktasht · 03-27-2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TreyMR2

I know this has like nothing to do with this thread so delete my post if you need to I just didn't think it was important enough for a new thread. I have an idea too, what about like a after market shield for the stock turbo manifold? Like a polished alm or SS one. I'd buy that in a sec.

Already in the process of making one. It's going to be a few months though. Gotta finish up some other projects first.

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Originally Posted by Mr2crazybyong

this is interesting, would the outcome be equal to a gen3 swap power wise if you swap the IM and the turbo? a cheaper alternative.

The Gen3 has many differences other than the intake manifold. It has more aggressive cams, different heady porting, larger injectors, different ECU mapping, etc...

TreyMR2 · 03-27-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baktasht

Already in the process of making one. It's going to be a few months though. Gotta finish up some other projects first.

Sweet put me down for one of the first few you get out. My stock one is a real eye sore.

Sang · 03-27-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baktasht

Hmmmm. I'll definitely look into it. I think the main challenge with that would be the different bolt/stud pattern.

The biggest challenge is lining up the ports and port/chamfer the adapter outlet since the gen2 head ports are larger than the gen3 manifold runners.

To get things aligned, you'll need to bolt the adapter to the manifold, then the adapter to the head. Then slot and TIG boss the adapter to hold the upper bolts on for better fitment.

The person that used to make the manifold adapter is still around btw. He was just a small time enthusiast and every now and then sold the adapters on ebay.

baktasht · 03-27-2008, 05:36 PM

^^ Any idea who it was? I'd be interested to have a chat with him and possibly have him make them to sell through EMSPowered or even buy the rights to his design and have them made if it is a well thought out design.

Sang · 03-27-2008, 06:55 PM

I've had e-mail correspondence with him before. I'll see if I can dig up his e-mail and send it to you when I find it.

baktasht · 03-27-2008, 09:36 PM

^^ BTW Sang, your 3" pipe is still here, was waiting on your shipping address... hmmm, or did you already PM that to me? My mind is all over the place these days

Sang · 03-28-2008, 01:08 AM

Sent you a PM with both of those infos.

Ben · 03-31-2008, 11:52 PM

How about producing these turbo timer/boost controller clock deletes for both HKS and Greddy timers??

TreyMR2 · 03-31-2008, 11:55 PM

^ thats bad ass

baktasht · 04-01-2008, 12:01 AM

Ben, who makes those?

Ben · 04-01-2008, 12:16 AM

03-22-2008, 04:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,639 Thanks: 7 Thanked 86 Times in 74 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Idea for a new product Tash You know what I think would be a really cool thing to see produced, which wouldnt be that hard of a thing to do, if it was popular enough or sought after enough, would be an adapter plate to run a gen3 3SGTE manifold on a gen2 head. In light of doing the gen3 electronics conversion on my car, I want the gen3 IM but nobody makes an adapter. A few people have made em, and they work, but nobody has disclosed info or wants to make them. You should ask the MR2 guys and see what interest would be. I know Id be interested.

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Ben Propulsion Restored Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA / Reno, NV Posts: 3,314 Thanks: 18 Thanked 235 Times in 222 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	PM'd

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baktasht EMSPowered.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,762 Thanks: 15 Thanked 96 Times in 84 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (25/100% )	Hmmmm. I'll definitely look into it. I think the main challenge with that would be the different bolt/stud pattern.

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TreyMR2 Gen3 swap DONE!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,842 Thanks: 22 Thanked 44 Times in 42 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	I know this has like nothing to do with this thread so delete my post if you need to I just didn't think it was important enough for a new thread. I have an idea too, what about like a after market shield for the stock turbo manifold? Like a polished alm or SS one. I'd buy that in a sec.

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canadam MidshipExpress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 9,292 Thanks: 111 Thanked 121 Times in 107 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (28/100% )	Luni, would a TVIS removal spacer and GenII Intake Manifold suffice? I'm sure Baktash could have those made easily.

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Mr2crazybyong It's a toyota, nuff said! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 486 Thanks: 23 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	this is interesting, would the outcome be equal to a gen3 swap power wise if you swap the IM and the turbo? a cheaper alternative.

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baktasht EMSPowered.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,762 Thanks: 15 Thanked 96 Times in 84 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (25/100% )	^^ Any idea who it was? I'd be interested to have a chat with him and possibly have him make them to sell through EMSPowered or even buy the rights to his design and have them made if it is a well thought out design.

03-27-2008, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sang MT Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Home: Tampa, FL School: Gainesville, FL Posts: 2,986 Thanks: 18 Thanked 195 Times in 175 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I've had e-mail correspondence with him before. I'll see if I can dig up his e-mail and send it to you when I find it.

03-27-2008, 09:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
baktasht EMSPowered.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,762 Thanks: 15 Thanked 96 Times in 84 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (25/100% )	^^ BTW Sang, your 3" pipe is still here, was waiting on your shipping address... hmmm, or did you already PM that to me? My mind is all over the place these days

03-28-2008, 01:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
Sang MT Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Home: Tampa, FL School: Gainesville, FL Posts: 2,986 Thanks: 18 Thanked 195 Times in 175 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Sent you a PM with both of those infos.

03-31-2008, 11:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ben Propulsion Restored Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA / Reno, NV Posts: 3,314 Thanks: 18 Thanked 235 Times in 222 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	How about producing these turbo timer/boost controller clock deletes for both HKS and Greddy timers??

03-31-2008, 11:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
TreyMR2 Gen3 swap DONE!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,842 Thanks: 22 Thanked 44 Times in 42 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	^ thats bad ass

04-01-2008, 12:01 AM	#17 (permalink)
baktasht EMSPowered.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,762 Thanks: 15 Thanked 96 Times in 84 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (25/100% )	Ben, who makes those?