1986 Mk1 4A-GE to GZE Engine Swap (56k Beware, Lots Of Pics) - Page 2

skatermr1690 · 07-20-2007, 05:16 AM

hey i was wondering what would be eaisier and put out more power between swapping a 4agze or the silvertop 4age in my 87 mr2?

Mista 2 · 07-20-2007, 10:15 PM

ze would be an easier swap and is a lot easier to get power out of as it is already force fed.

skatermr1690 · 07-20-2007, 11:35 PM

thanks i found a website that has the complete gze jdm motor and tranny with shipping it is about $860. so i think i will try the gze. i want to keep the engine stock to extend its life but i want to get at least 200 hp out of it that should be plenty for my little 87 mr2. any suggestions on getting more hp out of the gze for cheap?

Ignarius · 10-08-2007, 01:18 AM

What would the difference be in swapping a JDM motor versus a USDM motor? Where are good places to find each?

TheAmazingDave · 10-08-2007, 03:53 AM

There is no difference between a USDM or JDM AW11 4A-GZE.

There are several other versions of the GZE from the Corolla that made a bit more power. The AE101 GZE is usually the most sought after JDM GZE because it also uses MAP and DLI, IIRC.

Ignarius · 11-07-2007, 03:44 PM

Sweet. I hear the JDM motor comes without an EGR, though. I have emissions here, so that wont fly. Any suggestions on where to buy a USDM motor?

nitrate · 11-11-2007, 12:04 AM

V8.s take less time to put in

LordNikon · 02-16-2008, 04:27 PM

I just found a JDM GZE that I think I'm gonna get, just have to haggle over the price. The only prob is there is no ecu for it. anyone know where I can pick up an ECU, or stand alone, or is there a piggy back for my stock 88 ECU?

TheAmazingDave · 02-16-2008, 05:30 PM

I may have a spare GZE ECU.

LordNikon · 02-17-2008, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmazingDave

I may have a spare GZE ECU.

I sent you a PM about this. I'm still waiting on the guy to get back with me to discuss a price. Let me know if you do have a spare and how much you want for it. Thanks

Kevin mr2 1985 · 11-06-2008, 01:56 PM

okay ty for right up but the 4agze i bought is off of a front engine car what do i do about the tranny cause i wanna use that transmission?

illmr2 · 12-09-2008, 06:39 PM

ok so i have a 86 mr2 and im going to buy a jdm 4agze would the wire harness be a PNP?

delroy109 · 01-12-2009, 06:36 AM

how about hthe jdm s/c alternator bracket?

ebouwman · 02-19-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrate

V8.s take less time to put in

The question is though, why would you EVER want to put a v8 in the FRONT or an Mr2?

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of buying a mid engine car?

Kevin mr2 1985 · 02-19-2009, 07:06 PM

i agree it does defeat the purpose now a V8 in the mid would be pritty sick. but it would weigh a ton

mr3 · 02-20-2009, 12:43 AM

But with the power of the v8 it would be worth it. There was a guy with some vids on youtube with a caddy v8 in his. Those things have nice torque down low and its a much nicer feeling powerband. Nothing like the 4age when you hit 3500 your head gets pushed back into the headrest. With the v8 your head would just be stuck in the headrest the entire time lol.

Kevin mr2 1985 · 02-20-2009, 12:47 AM

yah lol i would rather do a V6 swap in that case with either twin charged system or a twin turbo

ebouwman · 02-20-2009, 12:16 PM

^twincharger systems are the coolest, imo, partially because of the larger power band, and partially because of the technical brilliance of the system when it work properly (i'm not sure brilliance is the word i'm looking for, but you know what i mean)

Ya it would be AMAZING power, but i would only stuff it in the middle, like the toystar, BUT... that's way above my skill level, but then again V8 in the front probably would be as well...

lol

Quada · 05-31-2009, 02:05 PM

Can anyone tell me how strong the stock 4age tranny is?

mustclime · 06-05-2009, 03:30 PM

thinking of the jdm motor swap in a cheap NA, to bad the pics were not saved....

11-11-2007, 12:04 AM	#27 (permalink)
nitrate All the skills Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 433 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	V8s look easyer to put in V8.s take less time to put in

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07-20-2007, 05:16 AM	#21 (permalink)
skatermr1690 No Skills Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	hey i was wondering what would be eaisier and put out more power between swapping a 4agze or the silvertop 4age in my 87 mr2?

07-20-2007, 10:15 PM	#22 (permalink)
Mista 2 Cage Fighter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 461 Thanks: 16 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ze would be an easier swap and is a lot easier to get power out of as it is already force fed.

07-20-2007, 11:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
skatermr1690 No Skills Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	thanks i found a website that has the complete gze jdm motor and tranny with shipping it is about $860. so i think i will try the gze. i want to keep the engine stock to extend its life but i want to get at least 200 hp out of it that should be plenty for my little 87 mr2. any suggestions on getting more hp out of the gze for cheap?

10-08-2007, 01:18 AM	#24 (permalink)
Ignarius Cataclysmic and Prolific Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 74 Thanks: 9 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	What would the difference be in swapping a JDM motor versus a USDM motor? Where are good places to find each?

10-08-2007, 03:53 AM	#25 (permalink)
TheAmazingDave Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,112 Thanks: 14 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	There is no difference between a USDM or JDM AW11 4A-GZE. There are several other versions of the GZE from the Corolla that made a bit more power. The AE101 GZE is usually the most sought after JDM GZE because it also uses MAP and DLI, IIRC.

11-07-2007, 03:44 PM	#26 (permalink)
Ignarius Cataclysmic and Prolific Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 74 Thanks: 9 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Sweet. I hear the JDM motor comes without an EGR, though. I have emissions here, so that wont fly. Any suggestions on where to buy a USDM motor?

02-16-2008, 04:27 PM	#28 (permalink)
LordNikon ProjectMadMR2 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ft. Hood TX Posts: 145 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I just found a JDM GZE that I think I'm gonna get, just have to haggle over the price. The only prob is there is no ecu for it. anyone know where I can pick up an ECU, or stand alone, or is there a piggy back for my stock 88 ECU?

02-16-2008, 05:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
TheAmazingDave Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,112 Thanks: 14 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I may have a spare GZE ECU.

11-06-2008, 01:56 PM	#31 (permalink)
Kevin mr2 1985 it started! yes! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 424 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	okay ty for right up but the 4agze i bought is off of a front engine car what do i do about the tranny cause i wanna use that transmission?

12-09-2008, 06:39 PM	#32 (permalink)
illmr2 No Skills Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ok so i have a 86 mr2 and im going to buy a jdm 4agze would the wire harness be a PNP?

01-12-2009, 06:36 AM	#33 (permalink)
delroy109 No Skills Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	how about hthe jdm s/c alternator bracket?

02-19-2009, 07:06 PM	#35 (permalink)
Kevin mr2 1985 it started! yes! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 424 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i agree it does defeat the purpose now a V8 in the mid would be pritty sick. but it would weigh a ton

02-20-2009, 12:43 AM	#36 (permalink)
mr3 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Plymouth Mtg, Pa Posts: 812 Thanks: 18 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	But with the power of the v8 it would be worth it. There was a guy with some vids on youtube with a caddy v8 in his. Those things have nice torque down low and its a much nicer feeling powerband. Nothing like the 4age when you hit 3500 your head gets pushed back into the headrest. With the v8 your head would just be stuck in the headrest the entire time lol.

02-20-2009, 12:47 AM	#37 (permalink)
Kevin mr2 1985 it started! yes! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 424 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yah lol i would rather do a V6 swap in that case with either twin charged system or a twin turbo

02-20-2009, 12:16 PM	#38 (permalink)
ebouwman Curve Hugger Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,388 Thanks: 18 Thanked 48 Times in 48 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	^twincharger systems are the coolest, imo, partially because of the larger power band, and partially because of the technical brilliance of the system when it work properly (i'm not sure brilliance is the word i'm looking for, but you know what i mean) Ya it would be AMAZING power, but i would only stuff it in the middle, like the toystar, BUT... that's way above my skill level, but then again V8 in the front probably would be as well... lol

05-31-2009, 02:05 PM	#39 (permalink)
Quada No Skills Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Can anyone tell me how strong the stock 4age tranny is?

06-05-2009, 03:30 PM	#40 (permalink)
mustclime cone killer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	thinking of the jdm motor swap in a cheap NA, to bad the pics were not saved....