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Old 02-12-2007, 04:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Mishtaukin

I was scammed out of $250 from this guy. And another member of this board was scammed out of $400 from this person as well. He's referred to himself as Michael Utkin, Misha Utkin, and probably other variants of that sort. He resides in Atlanta, GA so anyone in that are, please be careful.

This person has been feeding me BS for the past 2-3 months. At first he claimed to have shipped out the wheels, then claimed it got lost and was notified as such by USPS. But in reality, he never shipped out the rims. I was browing this website and he put his car up for sale. Brian hill asked him a couple questions for me about the wheels and basically that's when he figured out that I caught on to him. He sent me an apologetic email (after having his BMW repoed) saying that he was sorry for what he tried to do and would send me a full refund. Well a week later, I got a money order for $150 and he said he'd get me the rest on his next pay day. Well, 2 months later he starts giving me BS about losing his job, no internet, etc etc. And now his email is non existent.

I still have his address from the return address (and from Brian's help when he did a favor for me by making a LONG trip over to his place to pay him a visit...) so i'm thinking about paying him a visit eventually...but I do'nt have any break from classes til next month

The other gentleman that paid for the SAME wheels in question never got ANY money back from him.

I used to have his phone # but I misplaced the paper that i wrote it on, wish I could call him up...

Anyways, I think he's still trying to sell his mr2 (with the same rims that he sold to AT LEAST two different people) so people if you see it, don't buy from him, he's crooked and I hope karma catches up to him.

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Also wanted to say thanks again Brian, can't thank you enough and when I get back on my feet with a new job (been in between for the last month) a % of that refund is definately going to be donated to this site for all it's help.

So anyways...I just wanted to give everyone a head's up. Brian had asked me to write this up some time ago, but i'm just not getting around to it.

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BTW if anything sounds weird in what I wrote, it's because I copied and pasted it on different message boards as well, and I may not have caught everything to make it sound right.
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Edit again: I accidently left a link I wasn't supposed to post, I copmletely overlooked it when trying to revise the post. I pm'd brian about it to edit it out, but if another Mod catches it before he does, please remove. thanks.
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Thanks for the heads up....I hate dicks like this . Happens more often than you think though, people are crooked and advise for everyone: Pay with paypal and make sure you do some background on the guy. Some guy w/ 4 posts usually isn't the best candidate to trade with. Some guy w/ a couple thousand and 2-3 itrader ratings is prob. pretty safe.

Appreciate it Sang .
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No problem. I was pretty upset at first...but now, it's whatever. Stuff happens, time to move on.
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post up his home address, telephone number, car vin, email addresses, paypay info etc etc.

if you just let it go, that means it worked and he'll be inclined to do it again.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The return address on the MO he sent me:

Michael Utkin
1023 Wildwood Glen
Villa Rica, GA 30180

Phone # I have for him:
404-488-3788

Paypal:
asadmalik87@gmail.com

Email (I keep getting returned emails from the web master/domain etc):
mishkautkin@gmail.com

I don't know any info about his car, he tried selling the car here sometime late last year. He edited those threads to delete all the info, but the car was on ebay before then (which i think is where he bought it from). If ebay hasn't deleted the page yet, i'll try and post it here when I find it.
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I don't have the ebay link, but here's the thread where he tried to sell the car here.

http://www.mr2board.com/forums/mk-2-...highlight=ebay
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