4agte in aw11 afm problems need help!

[mhamrick]

I have to ask because I can not tell where it is going. Where does the exhaust come into the turbo (I am guessing from below) and where is the exhaust leaving the turbo?

Also there is a T3 turbo manifold on eBay that has been proven to work. It is a Chinese SS clunk but I would say it will probably do you better than what you have now........

Toyota Corolla AE82 AE92 4AGE Turbo Exhaust Manifolds:eBay Motors (item 230341416025 end time Jun-04-09 19:29:50 PDT)

I got mine for $120 shipped from the same guy.

[Papo J]

Originally Posted by mhamrick

I have to ask because I can not tell where it is going. Where does the exhaust come into the turbo (I am guessing from below) and where is the exhaust leaving the turbo?

I was about to ask the same thing.

[donnyavery]

that header will not work on a aw11 the turbo hits the fire wall and if you make it fit the heat kills the stater (c52 trans wont to go to the 6spd but all i have is extra c52 and sc trans) i think im going to sell the sc and all the parts and the apexi safc to get the money for magasquirt so if any body needs parts let me know. i think that will be my best bet here is exhaust in pics and turbo placement





build pics here
donny's mk1 mr2 Photo Album - MySpace Photos

donny's mr2 body work Photo Album - MySpace Photos

[donnyavery]

and to answer a earlier question the turbo is new not ebay knock off i order it strait from garret and it spins freely

[mhamrick]

OK I do not know why you THINK that header does not fit as it has be PROVEN to fit. Several people are running it and it does NOT hit the firewall. It works fine. It would be best to relocate the oil filter and move the starter to the intake side (alot of the C52 trannies came with a starter hump on both sides). Another problem you have and could simply be your problem is that you have no dump pipe. Your exhaust could very well be going back into the intake of your car in this setup.

I have a Megasquirt and I think it has great deal of functionability but a lot of tuners will not touch them. If you are running a SC ECU then I would suggest sticking with it as a lot of guys have had no problems getting good horsepower out of it. I do not disagree with selling parts you have no use for but you may end up making the problem worse with the MS especially if you can not get it running in stock form. Also the MS will require a wideband to get the optimal results from.

I would also suggest not guessing on what the problems are. Unless you know for sure that something is wrong with a part then I would leave it alone because you may end up compounding the problem and making it worse.
I would suggest to look at someone's turbo set-up that is working and running and try to model your after it. Not guess and make a crap shoot out of it. I know what it is like to have to do stuff on a budget but there are going to be some corners you can not cut.

[mhamrick]

Also where does the vac tube go to from the BOV?

[donnyavery]

has any one here seen this header used on a 86 mr2

[mhamrick]

YES for the love of god. Why ask for help if you are going to assume otherwise as if you already know? It works but you have to remote mount your oil filter which you should do anyway when running a turbo on the exhaust side of the block to keep from heating your oil excessively.

I am using one on my MR2 and if you have access to mr2oc.com there is several people using it. It does not hit the firewall. It is not top mount. It works. I would suggest moving the starter to the intake side if you have that option. You can even run the AC with this manifold. It is not for the AE86 but the AE92 Corolla which is FWD. It will work and it will take alot of the guesswork out of your set-up. It will also make the turbo build look alot cleaner.

Now if you want to try and fix what you have I would suggest you start by moving the intake filter for the motor to a fresh air source where or you can simply build a dump pipe so your exhaust is not in the engine bay. The motor operates by burning Oxygen, not gas. The gas is simply the catalyst that burns the gas and makes the explosion. I would start there and then recheck ALL your vac lines and lines you have plugged to be sure that they are good. Another problem is your AFM as it should be before the turbo. When you run it after the turbo and you are at the RPM that makes boost it will shove the flapper door open. I would also check the AFM as it looks as if it has been apart and they are easy to mess up. If you have a spare start with it.

[donnyavery]

im not fighting you on the header thing i was just double checking because im ordering it in like 20 minutes or so and the oil filter is why so do you know what oil kit i need so i can order that too im just trying to get it right this time and i trted the afm on both sides of the turbo the starter is something i would like to address but both the na trans i have have the starter on the exhaust side and the sc one i dont have all the parts to do the swap i would like to find the a c60 to mate up but im not having luck to find one cheap enough or even at all so i hope i can get away with starter rap like i did with my celica and the afm was **** with wene i got it but i had it working right with the 4agze swap(drove it a year with the sc but had turbo for my celica but blew up so i dissided to put it on the mr2) thanks for you help i need it ill let you know wene its all to gether

[mhamrick]

The perma cool 10695 oil filter relocation kit should work just fine. If you are going to buy the header I suggested go to the item page I posted and offer $120 as that is who I bought mine from and that is what I paid. He should give you the same deal.

What is the specs on your turbo? Do you have an Intercooler? Also most C-52 trannys had the starter location on both sides of the motor. If you have yours on both sides then I would suggest you moving it to the intake inside.

I would also look the AFM over as they are easy to screw up when they are opened. I honestly think if you make an exhaust dump pipe from your turbo that it would help a lot and maybe run. It would be nice if you can get what you have running so once you have the parts to swap over it would be a simple bolt and go (except you will need to weld up your dump pipe and exhaust).

If you have access to MR2OC I would go there and check as there is several Turbo builds going on now that use this manifold and a couple that are successfully running it. I have not seen many turbo build threads here so once I start mine I will document it here.

[donnyavery]

well the header is gonna be here Friday(or so ups told me)

[mhamrick]

It will work. Remeber you have to remote mount the Oil filter. I found anothe guy that will make some Super duper T304 for about $100 more. A little late huh? You will thank me when you get done.

What size is your T3 turbo???

[donnyavery]

header in going on to night and im going to put in on ill post pics .48 ar exhaust and i cant rember the intake its small its a t28 equivalent

[donnyavery]

the turbo have a 48 ar exhaust and a 60 ar intake side

[donnyavery]

ill post last nights pics the turbo is in place (very tight fit) i did not move the oil filter i was not using the oil cooler so i just removed the oil sandwich and used the stock fitting with a aluminum spacer and it has just a enough room to screw it on and off i found a lot of people sed that they had to reamed out the the first hear hole on the belt side because it was off some but i found that its not the hole that's off. The header just burly touches the distributor and that makes the the bolt off just a enough that it don't go in but if you hammer and dolly a little of the distributor shield if fits fine this are pics of it in place ill post more to night

http://www.mr2.com/forums/attachment...1&d=1243086886

[mhamrick]

tight fit but looking good. My turbo is pretty similar at .48 turbine side and .52 compressor side. Mine is a 50 trim though. What trim do you have?

[donnyavery]

got it started to day still problems i going to play with it a little more and and ill post a vid

[donnyavery]

here is all the pics i got so
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[donnyavery]

some vids

first test drive Video by donny - MySpace Video

test drive two Video by donny - MySpace Video

[mhamrick]

How much boost you making and where does the turbo come in at? I would check the wastegate. What size injectors and yada yada. You know the basic specs of it all. Looks better than before. I would go ahead and try to straighten out the wiring before something goes wrong that may cause other problems. Just a suggestion. Keep it up. I live in WV so maybe when I get mine finished we can compare. Mine is 86 hardtop that I am going to swap a JDM 4AGZE I have into and hopefully tune with a MS.

Just wanting to be sure you do have the BOV hooked up properly right? What size spring is in your wastegate. What type of wastegate you running anyway?

Where is your Intercooler? I have a stock a GZE one if you are looking for one.