shifting problem

sesamesnaps · 08-31-2008, 04:49 PM

Can't shift into any gears, seems to be locked into place. I assume there are problems with the shift control cable or select control cable, but I'm not sure what exactly and need some help. It's an '86.

CyFi · 08-31-2008, 05:59 PM

Can you shift it with the car off?

86tymr2 · 08-31-2008, 07:53 PM

have someone looking at the shift lever on the tranny and someone changing the gears and see whats working or if somethings broken

halo07 · 09-01-2008, 12:24 PM

check to see if you clutch is working right. if its not fully disengaging then you wont be able to shift. i had this problem with my 85 and it ended up being the slave cylinder. it was leaking fluid and had to be replaced.

sixafterfour · 09-01-2008, 05:04 PM

Me and seasame looked at it.
pushing in the clutch pedal does disengage the clutch.
It was weird, i was able to move it 1-4 but not 5th and reverse. then i played with the cables a little more and it got locked kinda in neutral.
there doesnt seem to be anything in the way of the mechanical shift levers.

CyFi · 09-01-2008, 07:04 PM

Looks like you need to bleed the line and go from there.

sixafterfour · 09-01-2008, 07:21 PM

we did that last week. the clutch does push out, whenever the clutch petal is pushed down the lever moves like its suppose to.

CyFi · 09-01-2008, 08:10 PM

oh, i read what you wrote wrong. If the lever moves like its supposed to what is the issue? Again, does it shift when the car is off?

sixafterfour · 09-01-2008, 08:11 PM

the clutch lever moves
the shifting cables and levers do not.
does not shift while the car is off.

halo07 · 09-02-2008, 04:43 PM

i had a problem when i just put in my new tranny that i lost my second and reverse gears. it ended up being that the bushings in the shift linkage was comming out. if its getting stuck in gears.... take the shift linkage off of the tranny and see if you can move them freely. if you can then it looks to be a problem with your tranny. try changing the oil in it if thats the case.

halo07 · 09-02-2008, 04:47 PM

if your shift cables dont move when you take them off the tranny then you need to replace them because you probably have a kink in them. also take off the shift boot and check to see if there is anything keeping the shift lever from moving.

sesamesnaps · 09-03-2008, 02:10 AM

Sixafterfour and I worked late on it tonight. about 2 maybe 2 and a half hours getting it going.
pulled off the cables and the levers wouldn't move.
We drained the transmission fluid, and filled it up with some synthetic stuff.
After that we moved the levers around and around and around. it started getting into gears and such.
After that, with the car jacked up, we put it in first and let the oil warm up a bit. Then with some luck we got it into reverse. played around with the gears for a bit and thing started to shift a bit more normal again.

Took it off the jack stands and took it for a test drive and everything seems good!
I kinda suspect that the ends of the reverse gear are a little gnarled up. though, but its in working order.

08-31-2008, 04:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
sesamesnaps No Skills Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	shifting problem Can't shift into any gears, seems to be locked into place. I assume there are problems with the shift control cable or select control cable, but I'm not sure what exactly and need some help. It's an '86.

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08-31-2008, 05:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
CyFi Shoulda put a ring on it Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 12 Thanked 38 Times in 35 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	Can you shift it with the car off?

08-31-2008, 07:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
86tymr2 Some Skills Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: port angeles, wa Posts: 82 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	have someone looking at the shift lever on the tranny and someone changing the gears and see whats working or if somethings broken

09-01-2008, 12:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
halo07 Freakin sweet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Huber Heights Posts: 180 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	check to see if you clutch is working right. if its not fully disengaging then you wont be able to shift. i had this problem with my 85 and it ended up being the slave cylinder. it was leaking fluid and had to be replaced.

09-01-2008, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
sixafterfour No Skills Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Me and seasame looked at it. pushing in the clutch pedal does disengage the clutch. It was weird, i was able to move it 1-4 but not 5th and reverse. then i played with the cables a little more and it got locked kinda in neutral. there doesnt seem to be anything in the way of the mechanical shift levers.

09-01-2008, 07:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
CyFi Shoulda put a ring on it Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 12 Thanked 38 Times in 35 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	Looks like you need to bleed the line and go from there.

09-01-2008, 07:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
sixafterfour No Skills Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	we did that last week. the clutch does push out, whenever the clutch petal is pushed down the lever moves like its suppose to.

09-01-2008, 08:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
CyFi Shoulda put a ring on it Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 12 Thanked 38 Times in 35 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	oh, i read what you wrote wrong. If the lever moves like its supposed to what is the issue? Again, does it shift when the car is off?

09-01-2008, 08:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
sixafterfour No Skills Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	the clutch lever moves the shifting cables and levers do not. does not shift while the car is off.

09-02-2008, 04:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
halo07 Freakin sweet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Huber Heights Posts: 180 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i had a problem when i just put in my new tranny that i lost my second and reverse gears. it ended up being that the bushings in the shift linkage was comming out. if its getting stuck in gears.... take the shift linkage off of the tranny and see if you can move them freely. if you can then it looks to be a problem with your tranny. try changing the oil in it if thats the case.

09-02-2008, 04:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
halo07 Freakin sweet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Huber Heights Posts: 180 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	if your shift cables dont move when you take them off the tranny then you need to replace them because you probably have a kink in them. also take off the shift boot and check to see if there is anything keeping the shift lever from moving.

09-03-2008, 02:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
sesamesnaps No Skills Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Sixafterfour and I worked late on it tonight. about 2 maybe 2 and a half hours getting it going. pulled off the cables and the levers wouldn't move. We drained the transmission fluid, and filled it up with some synthetic stuff. After that we moved the levers around and around and around. it started getting into gears and such. After that, with the car jacked up, we put it in first and let the oil warm up a bit. Then with some luck we got it into reverse. played around with the gears for a bit and thing started to shift a bit more normal again. Took it off the jack stands and took it for a test drive and everything seems good! I kinda suspect that the ends of the reverse gear are a little gnarled up. though, but its in working order.