Shifter issuse 3rd gear only...hmmm

Tarsand-baby · 06-19-2009, 01:41 AM

I spent the day reading through alot of posts and haven't seen anyone with this issue yet.
It's an 85 na just put the motor back in, so all mounts are new and tight. Just replaced slave cylinder and drained all air from the lines no leaks. Clutch does engage fairly close to the floor and I have no reason the think it's slipping.
Everything was working perfect until I drove it home from work, Hot day and first time at highway speeds for about 45 min straight.

My problem is I can't get the shifter to stay in 3rd gear. As soon as I release the clutch it pops out of 3rd back into nuetral. If i'm alittle rough on it it will stay no problem. If it's just pushed in normally it pops out on clutch release.
It does it every time when gearing down from 4th to 3rd (unless I'm little rough), and only a few times when gearing up from 2nd to 3rd. It feels as though it's just not quite makeing it all the way in.
I have so far removed the console and made a 2 revelusion adjustment of the linkage to try and have it pull a little bit further (no change). I have never serviced the transmission since I bought the car so this is my next step. I have also ordered those fancy brass bushings for the shift linkage on the transmission. Any suggestions would be great.

muffinman · 06-19-2009, 09:52 AM

It's possible that the bushings might solve your problem if not at least you have ruled out one more thing.

Jackstand Queen · 06-27-2009, 05:21 PM

I was gonna say your tranny is toast. But instead, I think you might have air in your clutch hydraulics. The clutch should be firm and start engaging within an inch, or two of the at rest position.

Another thing to check is the throw out bearing fork. The lever the clutch slave pushes against. Is it floppy? Loose?

If you have a good feel for the tranny and motor, you can match the engine speed to the transmission speed and shift without a clutch. If you can do this, then its not the transmission.

CurtsMR2 · 06-28-2009, 07:34 PM

Put a set of skate board bearings into the cable ends at the trans. You will have to shim with washers to center them, but they solve a lot of problems.

Tarsand-baby · 08-03-2009, 07:53 PM

Well it ended up being the tranny, 3rd gear was gone and the fork needed replacment also. I had to limp it from Fort McMurray to Edmonton (480 kms). Protech did a good job rebuilding it but ever since I got it back my T-vis just doen't sound the same. huh.

mr3 · 08-03-2009, 08:11 PM

Off topic but can you post pics of your car? I've been thinking of painting my car orange.

Tarsand-baby · 08-03-2009, 08:23 PM

Sure, I will just add to my profile. Check back tomorrow.

06-19-2009, 01:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tarsand-baby No Skills Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Shifter issuse 3rd gear only...hmmm I spent the day reading through alot of posts and haven't seen anyone with this issue yet. It's an 85 na just put the motor back in, so all mounts are new and tight. Just replaced slave cylinder and drained all air from the lines no leaks. Clutch does engage fairly close to the floor and I have no reason the think it's slipping. Everything was working perfect until I drove it home from work, Hot day and first time at highway speeds for about 45 min straight. My problem is I can't get the shifter to stay in 3rd gear. As soon as I release the clutch it pops out of 3rd back into nuetral. If i'm alittle rough on it it will stay no problem. If it's just pushed in normally it pops out on clutch release. It does it every time when gearing down from 4th to 3rd (unless I'm little rough), and only a few times when gearing up from 2nd to 3rd. It feels as though it's just not quite makeing it all the way in. I have so far removed the console and made a 2 revelusion adjustment of the linkage to try and have it pull a little bit further (no change). I have never serviced the transmission since I bought the car so this is my next step. I have also ordered those fancy brass bushings for the shift linkage on the transmission. Any suggestions would be great.

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06-19-2009, 09:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
muffinman Brain Surgeon Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,797 Thanks: 24 Thanked 102 Times in 99 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	It's possible that the bushings might solve your problem if not at least you have ruled out one more thing.

06-27-2009, 05:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jackstand Queen Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 677 Thanks: 52 Thanked 56 Times in 53 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I was gonna say your tranny is toast. But instead, I think you might have air in your clutch hydraulics. The clutch should be firm and start engaging within an inch, or two of the at rest position. Another thing to check is the throw out bearing fork. The lever the clutch slave pushes against. Is it floppy? Loose? If you have a good feel for the tranny and motor, you can match the engine speed to the transmission speed and shift without a clutch. If you can do this, then its not the transmission.

06-28-2009, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
CurtsMR2 No Skills Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Put a set of skate board bearings into the cable ends at the trans. You will have to shim with washers to center them, but they solve a lot of problems.

08-03-2009, 07:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tarsand-baby No Skills Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Well it ended up being the tranny, 3rd gear was gone and the fork needed replacment also. I had to limp it from Fort McMurray to Edmonton (480 kms). Protech did a good job rebuilding it but ever since I got it back my T-vis just doen't sound the same. huh.

08-03-2009, 08:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
mr3 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Plymouth Mtg, Pa Posts: 848 Thanks: 19 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Off topic but can you post pics of your car? I've been thinking of painting my car orange.

08-03-2009, 08:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tarsand-baby No Skills Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Sure, I will just add to my profile. Check back tomorrow.