MR2's Ideal Horsepower?

[IDon'tKnow]

Originally Posted by IDon'tKnow

"How do I want to use the car and how much money do I want to spend?"

typical answers for question numer one would be:
Improved Daily Driver
Viscous Daily Driver
Daily Driver/ Weekend Racer
Drag Racer
Trailer Queen
Jackstand Queen (picked that one up here in the forum)
Auto X / Time Attack Car
Ect....

Second Question:
$3k-$5k
$5k-10k
$10K-$20k

You also need to consider the term over which you intend to make you modifications. Some routes lend themselves better to a few hundred bucks here and there over the course of a few years, while others require big piles of cash up front.

[Yozuki Ri]

Originally Posted by IDon'tKnow

typical answers for question numer one would be:
Improved Daily Driver
Viscous Daily Driver
Daily Driver/ Weekend Racer
Drag Racer
Trailer Queen
Jackstand Queen (picked that one up here in the forum)
Auto X / Time Attack Car
Ect....

Second Question:
$3k-$5k
$5k-10k
$10K-$20k

You also need to consider the term over which you intend to make you modifications. Some routes lend themselves better to a few hundred bucks here and there over the course of a few years, while others require big piles of cash up front.

How long would a drag car, autocross / TA, circuit and aggressive daily driver last compared to each other?

[IDon'tKnow]

If you want power and reliability (not neccessarily ease of maintenence) then there is no replacement for displacement.

If the motor in your car now isn't giving you any trouble, why don't you get yourself a V6 and work on a standard rebuild?

[Oteck]

The only ideal HP is the one you can handle. give a kid a full blown crotch rocket and see how he handles it.

[328FTW]

Rather than aiming for some number of horsepower why don't you look at what you have to spend on upgrades and see where that gets you or think of a setup and turbo you would like to run and spend the money on that and get what you get. If you set a number you will probably never be happy with it because you will get a dyno figure that means **** all else in terms of driving the car, there are more than horsepwer numbers to how a car acts under the hammer.

[Medusa]

Agreed. Build the car so it's fun to drive and FEELS how you want it to feel.

Then find out how much power it has.

You very well can set, for example, 350 HP as a goal, make it a loose guide rather than your hard-and-fast measurement. Plus, you'll always be wanting to do something to get more power.

[mr2swol]

Originally Posted by shagy236

I think this is a very good topic. I have a 92 that i bought with a rebuilt motor, dont know whats done to it but after removing the stock exhaust and running straight pipe off the turbo and a k&n it blows me away how much faster it is. its like night and day

on mr2oc some guy said he gained 20whp just by taking off his stock exhaust

[MR JAS]

Originally Posted by mr2swol

on mr2oc some guy said he gained 20whp just by taking off his stock exhaust

on mr2oc some guy is an idiot

[mr2swol]

Originally Posted by MR JAS

on mr2oc some guy is an idiot

he had dyno charts to back it up, im looking for them now.

[mr2swol]

Originally Posted by MR JAS

on mr2oc some guy is an idiot

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[koji]

I don't get why you don't pick a power to weight ratio of a car you'd like but couldn't afford (Lotus Exige or like) and try for that. Power delivery and ultimate power are completely useless measures if the power:

A) Doesn't get to the ground effectively

B) Completely overpowers the chassis/suspension/brakes

C) Is predicated on being an internet hero

Someone with more money will always be faster. Go for balance and experience the nirvana that only comes through a well setup car.

[Yozuki Ri]

The reason I ask this is because I need to start somewhere. Enough input and I have a working hinge.

[hotsv1]

9000HP? if we have HP in currency, that would be korean hp currency.

[328FTW]

Originally Posted by mr2swol

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Not the be an ass but that went to prove di** all. He didn't say if he removed a clogged cat or if he changed anything else at the same time plus he didn't say if he used the same place and did multiple pulls on the same dyno with the same ambient temperature and humidity. Basing a 20hp increase on one little thing plus someones post is sketchy at best with so much dyno error and other varibles possible.

[Mach2]

Originally Posted by MR JAS

being conservative i would say aim for OVER 9000HP

and also the game...

[MR JAS]

Originally Posted by Mach2

and also the game...

FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Levi_]

Originally Posted by 328FTW

Not the be an ass but that went to prove di** all. He didn't say if he removed a clogged cat or if he changed anything else at the same time plus he didn't say if he used the same place and did multiple pulls on the same dyno with the same ambient temperature and humidity. Basing a 20hp increase on one little thing plus someones post is sketchy at best with so much dyno error and other varibles possible.

It seems pretty clear to me, although he didn't provide any dynos, nor did he say if his boost was the same after he unbolted the b-pipe.

Originally Posted by Digitronical

I have a 3rd gen, ATS down pipe, ATS B pipe, ATS MBC @ 16~17 LBS. With those mods it made 229 WHP. I had ATS unbolt the B pipe from my downpipe and the car ended up making 249 WHP. I want to put an exhaust on my car but i really like how quiet the stock muffler is.

I can see the stock turbo muffler being a 20 whp restriction on a full bolt-on 3rd gen. He also didn't remove a clogged cat because there is no cat after the b-pipe and his ATS B-pipe doesn't have a cat in it IIRC.

[blackdemon]

Originally Posted by 328FTW

Not the be an ass but that went to prove di** all. He didn't say if he removed a clogged cat or if he changed anything else at the same time plus he didn't say if he used the same place and did multiple pulls on the same dyno with the same ambient temperature and humidity. Basing a 20hp increase on one little thing plus someones post is sketchy at best with so much dyno error and other varibles possible.

taking on to yours, you can add some stickers, and get like 5 hp, I've heared that a few times on this thread, and in other places. I'm still a newb here, but I'm aiming for about 450whp, person I bought it from advised a tune, and car should be pushing 320whp, but it's just hear say right now.

[Judgeman]

Originally Posted by Yozuki Ri

The reason I ask this is because I need to start somewhere. Enough input and I have a working hinge.

my advice is take it slow. start with upgrading/fixing any thing thats broken or worn out like brakes, struts, bushings ect and do a lot of resurch for each mod.
while your doing this you should get a better idea of what your are going to be doing most with your 2 and what your bigger mods down the road will do to help with that.

i spent about 5 years just upgrading stuff that was broken on my 2 befor i started buying the stuff that i wonted but didnt need.
koni struts, eibach springs and poly bushings wer about the first thing i did, then my turbo stated going out so i got a ct27 and KO dp to go with it. then my clutch started slipping and that snowballed in to a compleat tranny rebuild with kaaz 2 way, clutchmasters stage 3 and fidanza lwfw and so on.

PS. my 2 makes 232 WHP, 217 torque at 16psi and thats plenty to get your self in troble.

[Archidamus-R]

Originally Posted by Judgeman

my advice is take it slow. start with upgrading/fixing any thing thats broken or worn out like brakes, struts, bushings ect and do a lot of resurch for each mod.
while your doing this you should get a better idea of what your are going to be doing most with your 2 and what your bigger mods down the road will do to help with that.

i spent about 5 years just upgrading stuff that was broken on my 2 befor i started buying the stuff that i wonted but didnt need.
koni struts, eibach springs and poly bushings wer about the first thing i did

This is what I'm doing, so I'll throw my weight behind it. :P

Which Eibachs are you using, sport or pro?

Also, I'm thinking of doing an engine swap (way down the road; this old, bone-stock 5S is proving to be almost all the fun I need) for power/weight, but on the other side: slimming down the pounds. Anyone have mass figures for various Toyota engines?

I'm not planning to race my 2, I just want a super-fun daily driver who likes to shed her top now and again. I'm already most of the way there, lol. If I can make it occasionally embarrass a doofus Mustang driver, so much the better.