how to drive MR in gripe/touge situation..?

pissonlotus · 12-19-2007, 05:35 AM

i havent done any hard cornering, or driftin yet w/ MR sincei just got it and want to MOD the susp. first.
but i start noticing MR car bit different than FR car in tougu situation..
first i noticed was MR's handling is too good to drift
any big difference from FR i should know about..?
can any1 point out some stuffs i need to know on how to grib on MRs..?
thank you,

Gairloch · 12-19-2007, 02:05 PM

I haven't track driven a Mk I but I imagine that there aren't that many differences. One of the biggest differences between a FR and a MR is that a mid-rear chassis will be much more prone to oversteer. You will frequently be able to take a tighter inside line than a FR with similar grip. This is a trade off though because if you violate the traction threshold it's not nearly as easy to recover; when the tail starts to swing out you don't have much of a chance to correct before you go all the way around.

A good rule to keep in mind while you're learning to drive it is "slow in, fast out". It'll usually be the quickest way around the track and it will always be the safest.

MR2SW22 · 12-19-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gairloch

I haven't track driven a Mk I but I imagine that there aren't that many differences. One of the biggest differences is that a mid-rear chassis will be much more prone to oversteer than understeer. You will frequently be able to take a tighter inside line than a FR with similar grip but if you violate the traction threshold it's not nearly as easy to recover before it just takes you for a ride. A good rule to keep in mind while you're learning to drive it is "slow in, fast out".

x2, i oversteered leaving my highschool when i was 17 going down hill fast hitting a 90-degree turn and it took me for a ride into the curb, i tried to correct it but it was madness

. take it from me, learn somewhere like a track or road where no one else is around and the amount of things to hit is minimal.

pissonlotus · 12-19-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MR2SW22

x2, i oversteered leaving my highschool when i was 17 going down hill fast hitting a 90-degree turn and it took me for a ride into the curb, i tried to correct it but it was madness

. take it from me, learn somewhere like a track or road where no one else is around and the amount of things to hit is minimal.

for sure, i will be super carefull...

Gairloch · 12-19-2007, 11:52 PM

^ Good

NO JACKASSERY ON THE STREETS!! I won't help people that I see talking about that ****.

MR2SW22 · 12-20-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gairloch

^ Good

NO JACKASSERY ON THE STREETS!! I won't help people that I see talking about that ****.

i had a big accident on the street, my fault, no one hurt but my 2

, i never raced on the street again and i learned an expensive lesson, plus i was lucky no one got hurt.

Gairloch · 12-20-2007, 04:19 PM

I'm glad to hear you learned your lesson.

pissonlotus · 12-23-2007, 05:52 AM

i like my MR2 too much too race on street...
i want to work on and make it classic status..

anyways..

i found this..
maybe this will help me and other MR noobs...
drivingtips

Gairloch · 12-23-2007, 02:54 PM

Good stuff. Just so you know though, heel/toe is NOT what you should worry about if you're new to track driving. In fact, I would suggest to you that until you're competent doing it on the street 100% of the time do NOT try to use it on the track because it can be a horrible distraction at a crucial moment when all your attention is needed elsewhere.

The first two skills you need to work on are situational awareness and corner analysis.

12-19-2007, 05:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
pissonlotus Cage Fighter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ive lived in MI,IL,MD,WA,VA but so CAs da place to be Posts: 179 Thanks: 20 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	how to drive MR in gripe/touge situation..? i havent done any hard cornering, or driftin yet w/ MR sincei just got it and want to MOD the susp. first. but i start noticing MR car bit different than FR car in tougu situation.. first i noticed was MR's handling is too good to drift any big difference from FR i should know about..? can any1 point out some stuffs i need to know on how to grib on MRs..? thank you,

12-19-2007, 02:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	I haven't track driven a Mk I but I imagine that there aren't that many differences. One of the biggest differences between a FR and a MR is that a mid-rear chassis will be much more prone to oversteer. You will frequently be able to take a tighter inside line than a FR with similar grip. This is a trade off though because if you violate the traction threshold it's not nearly as easy to recover; when the tail starts to swing out you don't have much of a chance to correct before you go all the way around. A good rule to keep in mind while you're learning to drive it is "slow in, fast out". It'll usually be the quickest way around the track and it will always be the safest. Last edited by Gairloch; 12-20-2007 at 12:01 AM..

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12-19-2007, 11:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	^ Good NO JACKASSERY ON THE STREETS!! I won't help people that I see talking about that ****.

12-20-2007, 04:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	I'm glad to hear you learned your lesson.

12-23-2007, 05:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
pissonlotus Cage Fighter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ive lived in MI,IL,MD,WA,VA but so CAs da place to be Posts: 179 Thanks: 20 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i like my MR2 too much too race on street... i want to work on and make it classic status.. anyways.. i found this.. maybe this will help me and other MR noobs... drivingtips

12-23-2007, 02:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Good stuff. Just so you know though, heel/toe is NOT what you should worry about if you're new to track driving. In fact, I would suggest to you that until you're competent doing it on the street 100% of the time do NOT try to use it on the track because it can be a horrible distraction at a crucial moment when all your attention is needed elsewhere. The first two skills you need to work on are situational awareness and corner analysis.