Street Brawler question

wickedmr2 · 07-25-2006, 11:31 PM

I remember seeing somewhere that you offer other choices of Turbos for your kit, what are they...? And what is the cost...???

Enthalpy · 07-26-2006, 01:01 AM

www.koracing.net.

They have two basic options. If you have a largely stock motor, you will want the 46-trim option.

Check out their site. They have a ton of products.

PHOENIX · 07-26-2006, 01:06 AM

yeah, but i think they are in the works of adding a few more options as far as turbo kits to the collection. But i think they are being sneaky about it right now till they get the R&D done.

I'll be holding out to see what they offer before making my final decision on how I want to blow my motor.

baktasht · 07-26-2006, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

... I'll be holding out to see what they offer before making my final decision on how I want to blow my motor.

Gotta luv a guy with a sense of reality and a sense of humor

PHOENIX · 07-26-2006, 01:16 AM

It will probably happen, im reaching into unknown waters with my build. No worries though, i have a backup

I just want to see if it can be done properly, if it blows...eh, back to the drawing board.

baktasht · 07-26-2006, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

It will probably happen, im reaching into unknown waters with my build. No worries though, i have a backup

I just want to see if it can be done properly, if it blows...eh, back to the drawing board.

I hear ya... I did that with my last motor... It was fun while it lasted. Now everything is being built a little at a time and whatever I replace is being replaced with nothing but the best.

PHOENIX · 07-26-2006, 01:28 AM

yeah, thats what im starting with. Custom pistons, custom billet cams from australia, basically custom everything.

Now i need to convince Kris for a little customizing on his (hopefully) up and coming turbo kits

Sang · 07-26-2006, 02:39 AM

they have a gt35r option. Basically the swap flanges for the same ones on their street brawler kit so that they'll be interchangeable.

here is a pic of one of the firsts (or maybe the only one currently :dontknow: )

PHOENIX · 07-26-2006, 03:51 AM

that is a thing of beauty

Lilly · 07-26-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wickedmr2

I remember seeing somewhere that you offer other choices of Turbos for your kit, what are they...? And what is the cost...???

We offer the sb46 and sb50. We also offer the gt35r series, but still doing testing.

Prices for sb46 and sb50 $2190, shipping $50 lower 48 states.
Price for the gt35r is $2900, shipping $50 lower 48 states.

Thanks for your interest in KO Racing Products.

Lilly
KO Racing, Inc
www.koracing.net
503-783-1244

wickedmr2 · 07-26-2006, 05:49 PM

^ Wasnt there also other GT series Turbo options...??? or was I just imagining things...???

wickedmr2 · 07-26-2006, 05:57 PM

Nevermind, I finally found the post I saw it on...

Quote:

The SB turbos come with standard 270deg thrust bearings. This has not proven to be a reliability issue with any customer's car, despite constantly having my vendor's sales pitch quoted. Also, of the four failures we've ever had with the turbos, 2 were Ken's, and that was over a year and a half ago and we've had no failures since. I'm not sure why he continues to bring up this dirty laundry other than to try and make my turbo kits look bad -- there are several threads where this information has been covered extensively, but some people refuse to grow up and continue in their juvenille mud slinging.

As far as what BB turbos we can integrate into the SB kit: GT3071, GT3076, GT3040/3082, GT3540/3582 -- and we can also upgrade the t3/t4's in our kit to dual BB CHRAs. The GT series or BB t3/t4 kits are $2900. Also, the standard SB price is reducing to $2190.

5FistsoftheNorthStar · 09-13-2006, 04:29 PM

Hey Kris or Lily,

Can I run 15psi safely with a SB50 on a Gen3 with the basic bolt ons? i.e. intercooler (SM), exhaust, intake, stock 540cc's, 255 pump, and stock internals, fuel rail and regulator.

What is the highest PSI and rwhp I can get before changing out internals, fuel mods, ems, etc...? If I choose to run stock internals should I just go w/ the sb46? Thanks

Lilly · 09-15-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MR. 2Lanes

Hey Kris or Lily,

Can I run 15psi safely with a SB50 on a Gen3 with the basic bolt ons? i.e. intercooler (SM), exhaust, intake, stock 540cc's, 255 pump, and stock internals, fuel rail and regulator.

What is the highest PSI and rwhp I can get before changing out internals, fuel mods, ems, etc...? If I choose to run stock internals should I just go w/ the sb46? Thanks

MR. 2Lanes

15 psi on SB50-gen3 is fine, you can go as high as 17-18 psi. But might want to dyno it to check to make sure your not running out of fuel if you go to 17-18psi.
IF you choose to stay with the stock internals go with the SB46. Better spool and has comparable power.

KO Racing, Inc

Steven Hung · 09-20-2006, 11:02 AM

Are the Street Brawler Kits, SB46 and SB50 oil cool only? Is there an option for water cool? I believe someone mentioned that the Street Brawler kit T3/T4 can be upgraded with a dual BB CHRA. Would that be oil cool only as well?

5FistsoftheNorthStar · 09-20-2006, 12:04 PM

THanks, Lily. I know what to save up for now.

Lilly · 09-20-2006, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Hung

Are the Street Brawler Kits, SB46 and SB50 oil cool only? Is there an option for water cool? I believe someone mentioned that the Street Brawler kit T3/T4 can be upgraded with a dual BB CHRA. Would that be oil cool only as well?

Steve
Yes you can get the turbos water cooled for $150. $75 to upgrade the turbo to 360 bb.

Lilly

RePete · 01-15-2007, 10:29 PM

Hello,

I've read some good things, actually great things about your "Street Brawler" kit, the high value of the kit and the impressive quality of the components - especially in SB46 trim. It's only a few hundred bucks more than a new OEM turbo and that's just icing on the cake considering the completeness of the kit.

However, my car is more or less stock except for an MBC/FCD and some TRD bolt-ons. Intake & exhaust are also stock and I don't have any intention of changing them. I like my cars fast, sophisticated and quiet (except when I floor it).

So let's say my turbo dies tomorrow and I want to replace it. Now I may be one of the very few in the world that doesn't heavily subscribe to "You can never have too much horsepower" because I think my turbo '2 is plenty fast - I know how to drive it right to get a lot out of it. What I'm looking for is to replace the aged turbo with a quality product that won't have annoying problems in a year or 3 - basically TOYOTA reliability. What can you tell me about the following?

- the Street Brawler's reliability.
- What sort of warranty do you offer? (sorry, I must have missed it on your web page).
- How loud is the new downpipe, in fact the whole kit? What sort of decibel increase am I looking at if everything else stays the same?
- Will I have to mod anything else for your kit to work properly?
- If I don't mod anything else am I compromising your kit's reliability or its function in the long run?
- Can you honestly recommend the Brawler kit to me if I intend to stay stock for everything else? Basically, as a direct replacement for my OEM turbo/downpipe.
- There's a pesky asterisk on your Brawler webpage: "*Note: This is not an emissions legal part." Which part? All of it? I live in a province with emissions testing and I pass every year in my current form.

Sorry for all the questions and the long post, thank you in advance.

- Pete

Enthalpy · 01-16-2007, 12:49 AM

California emissions inspections requires a visual. Non-stock turbos of any kind will fail these visual emissions. Most other places don't have this. Here in Colorado, they are fairly Nazi-esque, and I pass just fine. Emissions legal...here.

I have been running with my water-cooled SB46 now for probably 2-3 years and thousands of miles, and I have had so much as a drip of leaking oil or anything. The turbo performs flawlessly!

Spike · 01-16-2007, 10:28 AM

^ I "think" Enthalpy meant to say that he has NOT had so much as a drip of leaking oil...

I have an sb46, and have driven it several thousand miles with no leaks or reliability issues...even without the watercooled or 360° bearing upgrades. I wouldn't worry about reliability at all. My motor is stock and unopened but any aftermarket turbos will perform better with upgraded intercooler, and freer-flowing exhausts. Being able to limit boost pressure also becomes more important with larger aftermarket turbos.

Kevin

07-25-2006, 11:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
wickedmr2 Mad Skillz Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bensalem, PA Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Street Brawler question I remember seeing somewhere that you offer other choices of Turbos for your kit, what are they...? And what is the cost...???

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Spike Some Skills Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 122 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	^ I "think" Enthalpy meant to say that he has NOT had so much as a drip of leaking oil... I have an sb46, and have driven it several thousand miles with no leaks or reliability issues...even without the watercooled or 360° bearing upgrades. I wouldn't worry about reliability at all. My motor is stock and unopened but any aftermarket turbos will perform better with upgraded intercooler, and freer-flowing exhausts. Being able to limit boost pressure also becomes more important with larger aftermarket turbos. Kevin Last edited by Spike; 01-16-2007 at 12:29 PM.

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07-26-2006, 01:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,219 Thanks: 8 Thanked 54 Times in 42 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	www.koracing.net. They have two basic options. If you have a largely stock motor, you will want the 46-trim option. Check out their site. They have a ton of products.

07-26-2006, 01:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 84 Thanked 256 Times in 196 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	yeah, but i think they are in the works of adding a few more options as far as turbo kits to the collection. But i think they are being sneaky about it right now till they get the R&D done. I'll be holding out to see what they offer before making my final decision on how I want to blow my motor.

07-26-2006, 01:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 84 Thanked 256 Times in 196 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	It will probably happen, im reaching into unknown waters with my build. No worries though, i have a backup I just want to see if it can be done properly, if it blows...eh, back to the drawing board.

07-26-2006, 01:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 84 Thanked 256 Times in 196 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	yeah, thats what im starting with. Custom pistons, custom billet cams from australia, basically custom everything. Now i need to convince Kris for a little customizing on his (hopefully) up and coming turbo kits

07-26-2006, 02:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sang Go Magic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Home: Tampa, FL School: Gainesville, FL Posts: 3,384 Thanks: 19 Thanked 220 Times in 200 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	they have a gt35r option. Basically the swap flanges for the same ones on their street brawler kit so that they'll be interchangeable. here is a pic of one of the firsts (or maybe the only one currently :dontknow: )

07-26-2006, 03:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
PHOENIX Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Hiatus....... Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 84 Thanked 256 Times in 196 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (46/100% )	that is a thing of beauty

07-26-2006, 05:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
wickedmr2 Mad Skillz Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bensalem, PA Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	^ Wasnt there also other GT series Turbo options...??? or was I just imagining things...???

09-13-2006, 04:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
5FistsoftheNorthStar The Mighty Gen3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Your basement Posts: 1,018 Thanks: 15 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Hey Kris or Lily, Can I run 15psi safely with a SB50 on a Gen3 with the basic bolt ons? i.e. intercooler (SM), exhaust, intake, stock 540cc's, 255 pump, and stock internals, fuel rail and regulator. What is the highest PSI and rwhp I can get before changing out internals, fuel mods, ems, etc...? If I choose to run stock internals should I just go w/ the sb46? Thanks

09-20-2006, 11:02 AM	#15 (permalink)
Steven Hung No Skills Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Are the Street Brawler Kits, SB46 and SB50 oil cool only? Is there an option for water cool? I believe someone mentioned that the Street Brawler kit T3/T4 can be upgraded with a dual BB CHRA. Would that be oil cool only as well?

09-20-2006, 12:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
5FistsoftheNorthStar The Mighty Gen3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Your basement Posts: 1,018 Thanks: 15 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	THanks, Lily. I know what to save up for now.

01-15-2007, 10:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
RePete Midship Specialty Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vantastic, BC Posts: 940 Thanks: 0 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Hello, I've read some good things, actually great things about your "Street Brawler" kit, the high value of the kit and the impressive quality of the components - especially in SB46 trim. It's only a few hundred bucks more than a new OEM turbo and that's just icing on the cake considering the completeness of the kit. However, my car is more or less stock except for an MBC/FCD and some TRD bolt-ons. Intake & exhaust are also stock and I don't have any intention of changing them. I like my cars fast, sophisticated and quiet (except when I floor it). So let's say my turbo dies tomorrow and I want to replace it. Now I may be one of the very few in the world that doesn't heavily subscribe to "You can never have too much horsepower" because I think my turbo '2 is plenty fast - I know how to drive it right to get a lot out of it. What I'm looking for is to replace the aged turbo with a quality product that won't have annoying problems in a year or 3 - basically TOYOTA reliability. What can you tell me about the following? - the Street Brawler's reliability. - What sort of warranty do you offer? (sorry, I must have missed it on your web page). - How loud is the new downpipe, in fact the whole kit? What sort of decibel increase am I looking at if everything else stays the same? - Will I have to mod anything else for your kit to work properly? - If I don't mod anything else am I compromising your kit's reliability or its function in the long run? - Can you honestly recommend the Brawler kit to me if I intend to stay stock for everything else? Basically, as a direct replacement for my OEM turbo/downpipe. - There's a pesky asterisk on your Brawler webpage: "*Note: This is not an emissions legal part." Which part? All of it? I live in a province with emissions testing and I pass every year in my current form. Sorry for all the questions and the long post, thank you in advance. - Pete

01-16-2007, 12:49 AM	#19 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,219 Thanks: 8 Thanked 54 Times in 42 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	California emissions inspections requires a visual. Non-stock turbos of any kind will fail these visual emissions. Most other places don't have this. Here in Colorado, they are fairly Nazi-esque, and I pass just fine. Emissions legal...here. I have been running with my water-cooled SB46 now for probably 2-3 years and thousands of miles, and I have had so much as a drip of leaking oil or anything. The turbo performs flawlessly!