I'm almost afraid to ask...

AFBujinkan · 06-18-2009, 12:37 PM

But how much would a turbo axle hub be? A wheel bearing inner race fused to my old one, and I need to replace it ASAP.

Thanks!

te51levin · 06-18-2009, 05:52 PM

Bummer. I hate it when things weld themselves up! I'm assuming we're talking about the rear, correct?

42301-17020 - $233.32 - Hub sub-assy, rear, SW20 turbo
90369-43008 - $55.84 - Bearing
90521-88001 - $4.76 - Snap ring

Saved on quote number 47860. Thank you sir!

AFBujinkan · 06-18-2009, 06:13 PM

Sweet jumping jeebus, that's an expensive piece of steel. I've already got a bearing and snap ring tho, but I think i will need the five lug studs...unless the assy comes with. And yes, it's for the rear. Anyway, if I have to get it through you, it'll have to wait about another week, that's not gonna fit in this paycheck.

Thanks for the info Aaron, I'll keep you posted.

te51levin · 06-18-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFBujinkan

Sweet jumping jeebus, that's an expensive piece of steel.

You aren't kidding. It's pretty brutal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFBujinkan

I think i will need the five lug studs...unless the assy comes with.

Actually, they're included, so you're all set.

Luni · 06-18-2009, 08:21 PM

I had the same damn thing happen to me. I ended up having to go another path. I coudlnt believe toyota wants (even with the awesome pricing Aaron gives us) that much for a hub.

te51levin · 06-18-2009, 08:52 PM

It's bizarre, especially considering how cheap some other hubs are. For example, front hubs on an AW11 are $101.31 each, and rear hubs are $60.48 apiece. There is no logical explanation for the huge disparity in price unless it is heavily tied to sales volume. The fact that the AW11 rear hub is also used on a lot of FWD Corollas means they sell in huge numbers compared to the SW20-only rear hub.

AFBujinkan · 06-18-2009, 09:39 PM

Hmmm...and here I thought low supply and low demand meant lower prices. C'est la vie I guess.

AFBujinkan · 06-19-2009, 08:04 AM

Aaron, quick clarification question. Is the quoted price for the whole assembly, or just the axle shaft? I only need the single piece the lug studs are attached to.

te51levin · 06-19-2009, 02:32 PM

It's for the hub itself - in other words, the flange that the rotor and wheel bolt to, and that the splined portion of the axle shaft goes through.

Luni · 06-19-2009, 04:10 PM

In our assembly theres 2 pieces. The hub and the spindle.

The spindle is what the brake caliper bracket attaches to. The spindle is what attaches to the strut itself. Etc.

The hub presses into the spindle and the bearing spins the hub between the spindle.

Dont even ask him how much a hub AND spindle is....

TomsMR2 · 06-19-2009, 05:53 PM

wait, what fused? the INNER race fused to the spindle?

ive never had a bearing not fuse to the spindle. you take an angle grinder and cut a slit in the race, put a flathead screwdriver in there and *pop*, off comes your race.

TomsMR2 · 06-19-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luni

In our assembly theres 2 pieces. The hub and the spindle.

The spindle is what the brake caliper bracket attaches to. The spindle is what attaches to the strut itself. Etc.

The hub presses into the spindle and the bearing spins the hub between the spindle.

Dont even ask him how much a hub AND spindle is....

got that backwards

the spindle is the piece with lug studs on it.

that thing.. its not an mr2 part, but looks the same.

the hub houses the bearing and bolts to the strut.

te51levin · 06-19-2009, 06:42 PM

You're backwards, Tom. And your terminology is backwards as well.

AFBujinkan · 06-19-2009, 07:38 PM

Dude, I've tried chisels at the base of the race, used and angle grinder to cut grooves for a press, and tried torching the thing. It is ON THERE, and it's not coming off as far as I or any of the guys in the shop can tell. Plus, the exposed half of the shaft is corroded/pitted halfway to hell and gone. It looks like even if I could get the half of the race on there off, the tolerances to a new bearing would be so bad i'd just trash a new one in no time.

Luni · 06-19-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by te51levin

You're backwards, Tom. And your terminology is backwards as well.

OUCH TOM! BURNSAUCE!!

JK LOL.

Toyotas terminology may be off according to you, but I know what the terminology is, cause Ive dealt with this exact same issue before and I called Aaron and got quotes for all the stuff.

Aaron, would it bother you if I told him the way I went so I didnt have to bend over and take a giant unlubricated one from Toyota?

TomsMR2 · 06-19-2009, 09:01 PM

what the hell

a spindle is a tapered rod. its weird toyota sells them backwards.

te51levin · 06-19-2009, 09:07 PM

Luni, if you have knowledge that benefits the community, that trumps an exorbitant and unnecessary part sale any way.

Tom, Google the phrase "drop spindle" and see what you find. Also, when was the last time you went off-roading with somebody who had to turn in the spindles?

NEVVAARRRR!!! is when.

Luni · 06-19-2009, 10:08 PM

Hes right Tom. Off road guys turn in the hub. LOL. You just got Double Pwned.

To the OP, just call Josh at CRW. He has rear hub/spindle assemblies laying around. He sold me mine for pretty cheap compared to what it would cost me to get the 2 new items from Toyota. Actually the assembly was cheaper than one hub.

I still had a new bearing pressed into it though. But yeah, call Josh. Tell him Luni told you to bug him. Or just email the_mister3 at yahoo.com

TomsMR2 · 06-19-2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by te51levin

Tom, Google the phrase "drop spindle" and see what you find. Also, when was the last time you went off-roading with somebody who had to turn in the spindles?

i see tapered rods for sewing? the only thing ive been offroading in is mk1's.. didnt end well

TomsMR2 · 06-19-2009, 11:13 PM

oops im thinking fronts.. like

bgb calls it an axle shaft, and the suspension mounted piece a carrier.

06-18-2009, 12:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
AFBujinkan I'm going in for guns! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 225 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I'm almost afraid to ask... But how much would a turbo axle hub be? A wheel bearing inner race fused to my old one, and I need to replace it ASAP. Thanks!

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TomsMR2 Formerly Tom Brokaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,497 Thanks: 8 Thanked 233 Times in 168 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	oops im thinking fronts.. like bgb calls it an axle shaft, and the suspension mounted piece a carrier. Last edited by TomsMR2; 06-19-2009 at 11:20 PM.

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06-18-2009, 05:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
te51levin Lithia Toyota Parts Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,921 Thanks: 33 Thanked 146 Times in 125 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (125/100% )	Bummer. I hate it when things weld themselves up! I'm assuming we're talking about the rear, correct? 42301-17020 - $233.32 - Hub sub-assy, rear, SW20 turbo 90369-43008 - $55.84 - Bearing 90521-88001 - $4.76 - Snap ring Saved on quote number 47860. Thank you sir!

06-18-2009, 06:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
AFBujinkan I'm going in for guns! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 225 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Sweet jumping jeebus, that's an expensive piece of steel. I've already got a bearing and snap ring tho, but I think i will need the five lug studs...unless the assy comes with. And yes, it's for the rear. Anyway, if I have to get it through you, it'll have to wait about another week, that's not gonna fit in this paycheck. Thanks for the info Aaron, I'll keep you posted.

06-18-2009, 08:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 9 Thanked 106 Times in 92 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (8/100% )	I had the same damn thing happen to me. I ended up having to go another path. I coudlnt believe toyota wants (even with the awesome pricing Aaron gives us) that much for a hub.

06-18-2009, 08:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
te51levin Lithia Toyota Parts Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,921 Thanks: 33 Thanked 146 Times in 125 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (125/100% )	It's bizarre, especially considering how cheap some other hubs are. For example, front hubs on an AW11 are $101.31 each, and rear hubs are $60.48 apiece. There is no logical explanation for the huge disparity in price unless it is heavily tied to sales volume. The fact that the AW11 rear hub is also used on a lot of FWD Corollas means they sell in huge numbers compared to the SW20-only rear hub.

06-18-2009, 09:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
AFBujinkan I'm going in for guns! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 225 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Hmmm...and here I thought low supply and low demand meant lower prices. C'est la vie I guess.

06-19-2009, 08:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
AFBujinkan I'm going in for guns! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 225 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Aaron, quick clarification question. Is the quoted price for the whole assembly, or just the axle shaft? I only need the single piece the lug studs are attached to.

06-19-2009, 02:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
te51levin Lithia Toyota Parts Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,921 Thanks: 33 Thanked 146 Times in 125 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (125/100% )	It's for the hub itself - in other words, the flange that the rotor and wheel bolt to, and that the splined portion of the axle shaft goes through.

06-19-2009, 04:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 9 Thanked 106 Times in 92 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (8/100% )	In our assembly theres 2 pieces. The hub and the spindle. The spindle is what the brake caliper bracket attaches to. The spindle is what attaches to the strut itself. Etc. The hub presses into the spindle and the bearing spins the hub between the spindle. Dont even ask him how much a hub AND spindle is....

06-19-2009, 05:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Formerly Tom Brokaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,497 Thanks: 8 Thanked 233 Times in 168 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	wait, what fused? the INNER race fused to the spindle? ive never had a bearing not fuse to the spindle. you take an angle grinder and cut a slit in the race, put a flathead screwdriver in there and pop, off comes your race.

06-19-2009, 06:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
te51levin Lithia Toyota Parts Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,921 Thanks: 33 Thanked 146 Times in 125 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (125/100% )	You're backwards, Tom. And your terminology is backwards as well.

06-19-2009, 07:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
AFBujinkan I'm going in for guns! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 225 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Dude, I've tried chisels at the base of the race, used and angle grinder to cut grooves for a press, and tried torching the thing. It is ON THERE, and it's not coming off as far as I or any of the guys in the shop can tell. Plus, the exposed half of the shaft is corroded/pitted halfway to hell and gone. It looks like even if I could get the half of the race on there off, the tolerances to a new bearing would be so bad i'd just trash a new one in no time.

06-19-2009, 09:01 PM	#16 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Formerly Tom Brokaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,497 Thanks: 8 Thanked 233 Times in 168 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	what the hell a spindle is a tapered rod. its weird toyota sells them backwards.

06-19-2009, 09:07 PM	#17 (permalink)
te51levin Lithia Toyota Parts Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,921 Thanks: 33 Thanked 146 Times in 125 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (125/100% )	Luni, if you have knowledge that benefits the community, that trumps an exorbitant and unnecessary part sale any way. Tom, Google the phrase "drop spindle" and see what you find. Also, when was the last time you went off-roading with somebody who had to turn in the spindles? NEVVAARRRR!!! is when.

06-19-2009, 10:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 9 Thanked 106 Times in 92 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (8/100% )	Hes right Tom. Off road guys turn in the hub. LOL. You just got Double Pwned. To the OP, just call Josh at CRW. He has rear hub/spindle assemblies laying around. He sold me mine for pretty cheap compared to what it would cost me to get the 2 new items from Toyota. Actually the assembly was cheaper than one hub. I still had a new bearing pressed into it though. But yeah, call Josh. Tell him Luni told you to bug him. Or just email the_mister3 at yahoo.com