185/65/14 too tall a tire?

suprarx7nut · 01-13-2009, 08:57 PM

So I can get a smoking deal on some 185/65/14 tires, but the stock size is 185/60/14.

Should I even be considering these? By smoking deal I mean ~$50 bucks for 4 almost new.

goixoye · 01-13-2009, 09:36 PM

I don't think I would. What are the tires? That size is probably a T rated M&S tire. I would look at something H rated which is probably going to be a 60 series. Kinda depends on what kind of driving experience you want.

suprarx7nut · 01-13-2009, 11:26 PM

The whole driving experience is my main concern and I've thought about it for a few hours. I really want the car to handle the way it should, and adding some sidewall never helped cornering...

Though it is a steal of a deal and I desperately need new tires on the mr2, I'll have to pass these up.

How well do discount tire salespeople tend to respond to price negotiation?

masagsxr · 01-13-2009, 11:27 PM

185? Try 195 if you can.. 195/60

Timon · 01-14-2009, 11:47 AM

Right now I'm running Michelin X-Ice Xi2 175/65/14 tires on the stock rims for winter use. I have a set of 17'' Konig Tantrums with 205/35/17 Kumo's for summer use.
The handling difference is night and day between the two. The winter tires give the 'floating' feeling due to all of the extra tread on them, and a bit of body roll. I really can't say how all season, or performance tires of the same size would hold up - most likely better.

mr3 · 01-14-2009, 12:39 PM

Not trying to hijack this or anything but Timon, how did you fit 17's on? Every set I tried hit my suspension or I would have to roll the lip.

Gairloch · 01-14-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by suprarx7nut

The whole driving experience is my main concern and I've thought about it for a few hours. I really want the car to handle the way it should, and adding some sidewall never helped cornering...

Though it is a steal of a deal and I desperately need new tires on the mr2, I'll have to pass these up.

How well do discount tire salespeople tend to respond to price negotiation?

Good call. If nothing else the other tire would have been a little too tall which would at the very least have caused your speedo to read too slow.

Regarding the negotiations, mostly what you'll get is

Maticuno · 01-14-2009, 02:02 PM

If you are looking for some cheap yet mildly sporty tires try the Capitol/Ohtsu Negotiators. My department puts a lot of these on our Crown Vic Interceptors. I've got about 3k miles on mine so far with no complaints.

suprarx7nut · 01-14-2009, 03:07 PM

Found a local deal for some 195/60/14's with some nice wheels too!

All for less than the absolute cheapest tire brand new.

Craigslist is awesome. Lets just hope they haven't sold yet...

masagsxr · 01-14-2009, 03:09 PM

awesome..

mr2tim · 01-14-2009, 10:06 PM

Here's a shot of the wifes 88 S/C car with 195-70-14 on the rear and 185-65-14 on the front..handles just fine.

She runs 36psi rear and 34 psi front.

Timon · 01-15-2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mr3

Not trying to hijack this or anything but Timon, how did you fit 17's on? Every set I tried hit my suspension or I would have to roll the lip.

They fit with 35mm tires on, so very small in that category. I didn't have to do anything to get them to fit, and there is no steering issues at all. They were actually on the car when I got it. A buddy of mine put 18s on his Tercel for a bit, but those kept hitting the lip of the wheel well. I'm not sure if the lip on my was rolled to get the rims to fit or not, I'll check tomorrow and let you know.

suprarx7nut,

My friend (named above attempting 18s on his Tercel) works at Discount Tire. I go out there, and so does a lot of my family. They're usually reasonable when it comes to negotiating the price. My dad bought new rims and tires for one of my siblings vehicles and got out at only $650 - originally it was suppose to be $702.96.

div0 · 01-16-2009, 10:05 PM

I ran some 185/65R14 tires for a while. I got them for free from someone that upgraded their rims and tires, and my tires were bald. No fitment problems at all.

mr3: I've just had 17" rims installed. Motegi Tracklites 4x100 17"x7" in front and 17x8" in the rear, +40mm offset. 215/40R17 tires and a 5mm spacer in front and 245/35R17 tires in the rear. Everything just barely fits with the Ground Control Coilover kit, which is smaller diameter than stock. I have not yet driven on this setup yet, but everything appears to clear. I'm really looking forward to getting my car back and trying them out.

LokiRx7 · 01-19-2009, 11:24 PM

Bridgestone Fuzion HRi 185/60/14

They are an H rated All-season and provide excellent grip in all forms of weather, they do awesome on ice and snow. We got our two sets for $47 per tire, thats brand new. I love them, the only thing I like better are my 195/50/15 Fuzion ZRi W rated ($65 a piece) they arent top shelf but its hard to tell the difference!

Maticuno · 01-21-2009, 09:56 PM

+1 ^

That's what I was looking at getting. My local tire shop didn't carry them though. Really good deal on them through Tirerack.

stu4u3 · 04-03-2009, 09:34 AM

The stock tire on an 88-89 is 185-60-14 right? Do you think 195-60-14 will fit on a stock rim fine? I have a set of 88 SC wheels on their way and I was just wondering.

muffinman · 04-03-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stu4u3

The stock tire on an 88-89 is 185-60-14 right? Do you think 195-60-14 will fit on a stock rim fine? I have a set of 88 SC wheels on their way and I was just wondering.

YES! I've always bought the 195's , they look a little better too.

Focused · 04-03-2009, 01:03 PM

I run 195/60/14s on my 88' sc with no problems at all.

stu4u3 · 04-03-2009, 01:06 PM

Thanks Muffinman, thanks Focused! I have a lot of questions since I'm a recent buyer of an MK1.

muffinman · 04-03-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stu4u3

I have a lot of questions since I'm a recent buyer of an MK1.

Just ask and someone will know the answer(beats guessing or finding out the hard way).

01-13-2009, 08:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
suprarx7nut Supra\|MR2 Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 41 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	185/65/14 too tall a tire? So I can get a smoking deal on some 185/65/14 tires, but the stock size is 185/60/14. Should I even be considering these? By smoking deal I mean ~$50 bucks for 4 almost new.

01-14-2009, 10:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
mr2tim SUPERcharZed ToyZ RacZer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,789 Thanks: 8 Thanked 118 Times in 111 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	70 series & 65 series 14" will fit Mark 1 Here's a shot of the wifes 88 S/C car with 195-70-14 on the rear and 185-65-14 on the front..handles just fine. She runs 36psi rear and 34 psi front. Attached Thumbnails

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01-13-2009, 09:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
goixoye Worthless Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 133 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I don't think I would. What are the tires? That size is probably a T rated M&S tire. I would look at something H rated which is probably going to be a 60 series. Kinda depends on what kind of driving experience you want.

01-13-2009, 11:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
suprarx7nut Supra\|MR2 Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 41 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The whole driving experience is my main concern and I've thought about it for a few hours. I really want the car to handle the way it should, and adding some sidewall never helped cornering... Though it is a steal of a deal and I desperately need new tires on the mr2, I'll have to pass these up. How well do discount tire salespeople tend to respond to price negotiation?

01-13-2009, 11:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	185? Try 195 if you can.. 195/60

01-14-2009, 11:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
Timon MR2 MKI AW11 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 669 Thanks: 13 Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Right now I'm running Michelin X-Ice Xi2 175/65/14 tires on the stock rims for winter use. I have a set of 17'' Konig Tantrums with 205/35/17 Kumo's for summer use. The handling difference is night and day between the two. The winter tires give the 'floating' feeling due to all of the extra tread on them, and a bit of body roll. I really can't say how all season, or performance tires of the same size would hold up - most likely better.

01-14-2009, 12:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
mr3 unskilled Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Plymouth Mtg, Pa Posts: 2,408 Thanks: 24 Thanked 98 Times in 93 Posts iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Not trying to hijack this or anything but Timon, how did you fit 17's on? Every set I tried hit my suspension or I would have to roll the lip.

01-14-2009, 02:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Maticuno Park Ranging Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Deserts Posts: 313 Thanks: 15 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	If you are looking for some cheap yet mildly sporty tires try the Capitol/Ohtsu Negotiators. My department puts a lot of these on our Crown Vic Interceptors. I've got about 3k miles on mine so far with no complaints.

01-14-2009, 03:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
suprarx7nut Supra\|MR2 Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 41 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Found a local deal for some 195/60/14's with some nice wheels too! All for less than the absolute cheapest tire brand new. Craigslist is awesome. Lets just hope they haven't sold yet...

01-14-2009, 03:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	awesome..

01-16-2009, 10:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
div0 No Skills Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I ran some 185/65R14 tires for a while. I got them for free from someone that upgraded their rims and tires, and my tires were bald. No fitment problems at all. mr3: I've just had 17" rims installed. Motegi Tracklites 4x100 17"x7" in front and 17x8" in the rear, +40mm offset. 215/40R17 tires and a 5mm spacer in front and 245/35R17 tires in the rear. Everything just barely fits with the Ground Control Coilover kit, which is smaller diameter than stock. I have not yet driven on this setup yet, but everything appears to clear. I'm really looking forward to getting my car back and trying them out.

01-19-2009, 11:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
LokiRx7 MR2 + Flat Black = FAIL Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N.C. Ohio Posts: 320 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Bridgestone Fuzion HRi 185/60/14 They are an H rated All-season and provide excellent grip in all forms of weather, they do awesome on ice and snow. We got our two sets for $47 per tire, thats brand new. I love them, the only thing I like better are my 195/50/15 Fuzion ZRi W rated ($65 a piece) they arent top shelf but its hard to tell the difference!

01-21-2009, 09:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Maticuno Park Ranging Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Deserts Posts: 313 Thanks: 15 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	+1 ^ That's what I was looking at getting. My local tire shop didn't carry them though. Really good deal on them through Tirerack.

04-03-2009, 09:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
stu4u3 Fixing up a 1989 MR2 MK1 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Posts: 351 Thanks: 14 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	The stock tire on an 88-89 is 185-60-14 right? Do you think 195-60-14 will fit on a stock rim fine? I have a set of 88 SC wheels on their way and I was just wondering.

04-03-2009, 01:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
Focused No Skills Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I run 195/60/14s on my 88' sc with no problems at all.

04-03-2009, 01:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
stu4u3 Fixing up a 1989 MR2 MK1 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Posts: 351 Thanks: 14 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Thanks Muffinman, thanks Focused! I have a lot of questions since I'm a recent buyer of an MK1.