MOTOR SEARCH.....

seanfromnh · 07-03-2009, 01:03 AM

I have a 1986 MK1 that could use a motor.... my only question is... where can i find one? i don't know if i can pull any old four banger out of a corolla or not but any help would be great... So, what engines will fit in this thing without major reconstruction/custom work? Also, my brother (Chrisfromnh) has a 91 N/A and he found a list of vehicles that had V6 that would fit in his. Does anyone have this/a list for him or even mine?

Raptor13x · 07-03-2009, 01:11 AM

What exactly is wrong with your engine?

As for what engine to put in your car, how much money do you want to throw at it, how much mechanical know-how do you have, and what do you want out of the car? You can rebuild your current engine, do a direct replacement 4age, a supercharged 4agze, a later model 20v 4age (requires some custom work), or something more radical. Ebay has lots of engines, and occasionally you can find one at a local junkyard. I am personally a fan of the 20v swap- the extra 50hp really brings the car to life.

Concerning the '91, the only engines designed for the car are the 5sfe and 3sgte in the US. The V6 swap is becoming more popular- it's not a direct fit, so it requires some fabrication and know-how, but it's one of the easier engine swaps, as far as engine swaps go. Search the boards here and you'll find quite a bit of information on both topics.

mr2tim · 07-03-2009, 08:08 AM

Hi Sean,

I've got a nice 4a-ge (115HP) boxed down here in South Florida but that's way too far from you.

As you may or not know Japan has been flooding this country with their used engines heavily for the last 10-15 years. The Jap government REQUIRES that any engine over say 40k be recycled and from what I hear Jap authorities will not allow the owner to re-license his car till that old engine is replaced.

So the Japs dump these engines on the USA market big time, since most Jap engines are NOT required to have EPA garbage, emissions lines, EGR's, Catalytic converts etc etc these engines have increased horsepower as a result.

When you are contempleting your replacement engine be sure to include these "J-spec's" in your engine source/search. In most cases these engines will have less mileage than most engines found in Amerika's junkyards.

Look into Wikipedia for the "4a-" series engines and read up before hearing all this "unsubstantiated" info you will no doubt hear over the Internet.

You will find that alot of early engines have low HP ratings which may have been what happened to your car if the engine was replaced.

Tread carefully my friend, a informed buyer is less likely to be scammed.

mr2tim

seanfromnh · 07-03-2009, 11:52 PM

So are there any other cars that have the same motor for my MK1? or do i need to find another mr2? because up here in New Hampshire they really don't exist... Theres only a couple... and i think we own em all...

chrisfromnh · 07-04-2009, 12:32 AM

Ya i was searchin the forums but a while back i found a list of the vehicles and years that had compatible 6-cyl motors for my 91. Anyone have tat list?

palos · 07-04-2009, 12:42 AM

From wikipedia:

"Applications:

* Toyota MR2 AW11: Mid-engine RWD
* Corolla AE86 GT-S: RWD (often referred to as generic AE86 chassis group)
* Corolla AE82 FX-16: FWD
* Corolla AE92 GT-S: FWD
* SE Sedan (North America): (RWD from 1983-87 and FWD from 1988-91)
* Chevrolet Nova (based on Corolla AE82 chassis; only some 1988 model year Novas had the 4A-GE engine, rare)
* Geo Prizm GSi (based on Toyota AE92 chassis; 1990–1992)"

Years ago I bought a spare 4AGZE engine for my S/C MR2 for $525 ($450 plus $75 shipping) through one of the west coast outfits bringing the jspec engines into the states to give you a reference for price. The engine included the long block, exhaust and intake manifolds, coil packs, TB, clutch assembly, supercharger, etc… I believe there are some jspec engine imports located on the east coast.

You can also search Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market which is a search engine for salvage yards to locate an engine (or other parts). The site will cross reference cars that use the same part.

Raptor13x · 07-04-2009, 12:42 AM

*edit* palos copied the EXACT same thing from Wikipedia that I just posted seconds after him.

Raptor13x · 07-04-2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisfromnh

Ya i was searchin the forums but a while back i found a list of the vehicles and years that had compatible 6-cyl motors for my 91. Anyone have tat list?

There's an entire section of this board dedicated to that topic.

MK 2 - V6 - Toyota MR2 Message Board

seanfromnh · 07-05-2009, 01:56 AM

I went to car-part.com and there was only very few results... the closest one was 1200 miles away... Im gonna try and find something... all i need is the block (with pistons, crank etc...) everything else is good on mine- just has a really worn out cylinder...

traintech86 · 07-05-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2tim

Hi Sean,

I've got a nice 4a-ge (115HP) boxed down here in South Florida but that's way too far from you.
mr2tim

i thought my reply went through but i guess not. how many miles are on it sir? if its in good condition i might just have to take it off your hands :P pics would be wonderful.

palos · 07-05-2009, 10:53 PM

When I searched car-part.com, I came up with many along the east coast including the following:

1989
Engine
Toyota MR2 -NEED TO START 5SP 143,000 A H4997 $550 Anchor Used Auto Parts, Inc. USA-NH(Plaistow) Request_Quote 1-800-382-5235 Request_Insurance_Quote
19

I searched for an engine for a 1986 MR2 for the entire US and then sorted by distance, using zip code 03111, Manchester, NH. The above listing is 19 miles away.

There is also the following listing:

1986
Engine
Toyota MR2 NO START SEEMS 2B OK.-78K 78,000 A 087351 $300 Magic Auto Salvage USA-NJ(Paterson) Request_Quote 877-3-4UrCar / 877-348-7227 Request_Insurance_Quote
197

There were seven listings within 67 miles, a total of ten listings within 200 miles, and a total of 13 listings within 250 miles.

seanfromnh · 07-08-2009, 12:22 AM

well mines got 171K miles but its in pretty good shape- newer paint, but it needs some touch up and love...

Thanks palos for your help... im not sure if i used the site right then... im gonna check it out again... cuz i hate only being able to slowly put down the driveway at a crawl while i smoke out the whole town...

traintech86 · 07-09-2009, 03:44 AM

is japan motor imports any good? i been eye'in this for a minute now

Japan Motor Import - JDM Parts and Engines

what you all think?

mr3 · 07-09-2009, 11:41 AM

If you are up for a road trip, there is a guy in Reading PA selling a silvertop for $400. I was going to pick it up but I allready have one sitting in my shed.

1stgen · 07-09-2009, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2tim

As you may or not know Japan has been flooding this country with their used engines heavily for the last 10-15 years. The Jap government REQUIRES that any engine over say 40k be recycled and from what I hear Jap authorities will not allow the owner to re-license his car till that old engine is replaced.

Just to clarify...this is not a law...they do not require you do replace anything it is just mechanics charge an arm and a leg over there...

This is a myth..

Basically it boils down to this. They have emissions just like us except more stringent and cost more..Instead of renewing their registrations/emissions they just sell the car to a junker and buy a new one.. this is why you "assume" cars imported from japan have 40k KM on them..that may not always be the case..
SHAKEN not Stirred

traintech86 · 07-09-2009, 03:36 PM

i also heard that they have rediculous taxes over dere and that affects it too.

i emailed that car-parts.com website for an engine and this was a reply :

this is acore still in car been sitting about 5 years . i will sell as is only.
MARVIN

1757-714-6139

> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:59:38 -0700
> From: fresnoca86@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Car-Part.com,1989,1989,Toyota MR2,Engine,$350, 154947048,Postal 32511
> To: JunkYardDogNC@Live.com
>
>
> i was wondering if this engine was still in stock and if so can i have some pics of it? ty
>
>
>
>

what does core mean? is it just the block or what?

1stgen · 07-09-2009, 07:31 PM

cores can mean different things to different yards..some mean just a short block.. some mean its the entire engine but has no idea if it runs or the condition so no guarentees..

seanfromnh · 07-09-2009, 10:03 PM

MR3...
do you know how to contact the person in Penn.? Im interested....

GINA2MR2 · 07-09-2009, 10:26 PM

CORE

implies the old motor san accesories(alternator, compressor etc)
that doesnt mean you can give them a box with the bare block in it they will keep your money.
At my work ive made a customers take it back 'assemble it' before id take it back. but thats rare. just ask what they want when they say 'core'

traintech86 · 07-10-2009, 05:10 AM

i am just trying to score a reliable engine for my 2 as i will have to drive it across country in 16 months and the site recomended had one on it, the yard said core. this is refering to the heads and all or just the block with pistons?

07-03-2009, 01:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
seanfromnh MRnot2fast Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	MOTOR SEARCH..... I have a 1986 MK1 that could use a motor.... my only question is... where can i find one? i don't know if i can pull any old four banger out of a corolla or not but any help would be great... So, what engines will fit in this thing without major reconstruction/custom work? Also, my brother (Chrisfromnh) has a 91 N/A and he found a list of vehicles that had V6 that would fit in his. Does anyone have this/a list for him or even mine?

07-05-2009, 10:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
palos … Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	When I searched car-part.com, I came up with many along the east coast including the following: 1989 Engine Toyota MR2 -NEED TO START 5SP 143,000 A H4997 $550 Anchor Used Auto Parts, Inc. USA-NH(Plaistow) Request_Quote 1-800-382-5235 Request_Insurance_Quote 19 I searched for an engine for a 1986 MR2 for the entire US and then sorted by distance, using zip code 03111, Manchester, NH. The above listing is 19 miles away. There is also the following listing: 1986 Engine Toyota MR2 NO START SEEMS 2B OK.-78K 78,000 A 087351 $300 Magic Auto Salvage USA-NJ(Paterson) Request_Quote 877-3-4UrCar / 877-348-7227 Request_Insurance_Quote 197 There were seven listings within 67 miles, a total of ten listings within 200 miles, and a total of 13 listings within 250 miles. Last edited by palos; 07-05-2009 at 11:10 PM.

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07-03-2009, 01:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
Raptor13x Legendary Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 3,987 Thanks: 7 Thanked 40 Times in 34 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	What exactly is wrong with your engine? As for what engine to put in your car, how much money do you want to throw at it, how much mechanical know-how do you have, and what do you want out of the car? You can rebuild your current engine, do a direct replacement 4age, a supercharged 4agze, a later model 20v 4age (requires some custom work), or something more radical. Ebay has lots of engines, and occasionally you can find one at a local junkyard. I am personally a fan of the 20v swap- the extra 50hp really brings the car to life. Concerning the '91, the only engines designed for the car are the 5sfe and 3sgte in the US. The V6 swap is becoming more popular- it's not a direct fit, so it requires some fabrication and know-how, but it's one of the easier engine swaps, as far as engine swaps go. Search the boards here and you'll find quite a bit of information on both topics.

07-03-2009, 08:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
mr2tim SUPERcharZed ToyZ RacZer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 690 Thanks: 2 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Hi Sean, I've got a nice 4a-ge (115HP) boxed down here in South Florida but that's way too far from you. As you may or not know Japan has been flooding this country with their used engines heavily for the last 10-15 years. The Jap government REQUIRES that any engine over say 40k be recycled and from what I hear Jap authorities will not allow the owner to re-license his car till that old engine is replaced. So the Japs dump these engines on the USA market big time, since most Jap engines are NOT required to have EPA garbage, emissions lines, EGR's, Catalytic converts etc etc these engines have increased horsepower as a result. When you are contempleting your replacement engine be sure to include these "J-spec's" in your engine source/search. In most cases these engines will have less mileage than most engines found in Amerika's junkyards. Look into Wikipedia for the "4a-" series engines and read up before hearing all this "unsubstantiated" info you will no doubt hear over the Internet. You will find that alot of early engines have low HP ratings which may have been what happened to your car if the engine was replaced. Tread carefully my friend, a informed buyer is less likely to be scammed. mr2tim

07-03-2009, 11:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
seanfromnh MRnot2fast Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	So are there any other cars that have the same motor for my MK1? or do i need to find another mr2? because up here in New Hampshire they really don't exist... Theres only a couple... and i think we own em all...

07-04-2009, 12:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
chrisfromnh drift Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Weare, NH Posts: 135 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Blog Entries: 2 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Ya i was searchin the forums but a while back i found a list of the vehicles and years that had compatible 6-cyl motors for my 91. Anyone have tat list?

07-04-2009, 12:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
palos … Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	From wikipedia: "Applications: * Toyota MR2 AW11: Mid-engine RWD * Corolla AE86 GT-S: RWD (often referred to as generic AE86 chassis group) * Corolla AE82 FX-16: FWD * Corolla AE92 GT-S: FWD * SE Sedan (North America): (RWD from 1983-87 and FWD from 1988-91) * Chevrolet Nova (based on Corolla AE82 chassis; only some 1988 model year Novas had the 4A-GE engine, rare) * Geo Prizm GSi (based on Toyota AE92 chassis; 1990–1992)" Years ago I bought a spare 4AGZE engine for my S/C MR2 for $525 ($450 plus $75 shipping) through one of the west coast outfits bringing the jspec engines into the states to give you a reference for price. The engine included the long block, exhaust and intake manifolds, coil packs, TB, clutch assembly, supercharger, etc… I believe there are some jspec engine imports located on the east coast. You can also search Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market which is a search engine for salvage yards to locate an engine (or other parts). The site will cross reference cars that use the same part.

07-04-2009, 12:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Raptor13x Legendary Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 3,987 Thanks: 7 Thanked 40 Times in 34 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	edit palos copied the EXACT same thing from Wikipedia that I just posted seconds after him.

07-05-2009, 01:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
seanfromnh MRnot2fast Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I went to car-part.com and there was only very few results... the closest one was 1200 miles away... Im gonna try and find something... all i need is the block (with pistons, crank etc...) everything else is good on mine- just has a really worn out cylinder...

07-08-2009, 12:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
seanfromnh MRnot2fast Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	well mines got 171K miles but its in pretty good shape- newer paint, but it needs some touch up and love... Thanks palos for your help... im not sure if i used the site right then... im gonna check it out again... cuz i hate only being able to slowly put down the driveway at a crawl while i smoke out the whole town...

07-09-2009, 03:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
traintech86 Traintech86 on all im's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Norfolk VA Posts: 881 Thanks: 13 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	is japan motor imports any good? i been eye'in this for a minute now Japan Motor Import - JDM Parts and Engines what you all think?

07-09-2009, 11:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
mr3 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Plymouth Mtg, Pa Posts: 812 Thanks: 18 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	If you are up for a road trip, there is a guy in Reading PA selling a silvertop for $400. I was going to pick it up but I allready have one sitting in my shed.

07-09-2009, 03:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
traintech86 Traintech86 on all im's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Norfolk VA Posts: 881 Thanks: 13 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	i also heard that they have rediculous taxes over dere and that affects it too. i emailed that car-parts.com website for an engine and this was a reply : this is acore still in car been sitting about 5 years . i will sell as is only. MARVIN 1757-714-6139 > Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:59:38 -0700 > From: fresnoca86@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: Car-Part.com,1989,1989,Toyota MR2,Engine,$350, 154947048,Postal 32511 > To: JunkYardDogNC@Live.com > > > i was wondering if this engine was still in stock and if so can i have some pics of it? ty > > > > what does core mean? is it just the block or what?

07-09-2009, 07:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
1stgen Yup Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Central Coast CA Posts: 381 Thanks: 11 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	cores can mean different things to different yards..some mean just a short block.. some mean its the entire engine but has no idea if it runs or the condition so no guarentees..

07-09-2009, 10:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
seanfromnh MRnot2fast Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	MR3... do you know how to contact the person in Penn.? Im interested....

07-09-2009, 10:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
GINA2MR2 Not A VR6 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: J-Town Posts: 327 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	CORE implies the old motor san accesories(alternator, compressor etc) that doesnt mean you can give them a box with the bare block in it they will keep your money. At my work ive made a customers take it back 'assemble it' before id take it back. but thats rare. just ask what they want when they say 'core'

07-10-2009, 05:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
traintech86 Traintech86 on all im's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Norfolk VA Posts: 881 Thanks: 13 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	i am just trying to score a reliable engine for my 2 as i will have to drive it across country in 16 months and the site recomended had one on it, the yard said core. this is refering to the heads and all or just the block with pistons?